Joining the holy roman empire as Orthodox.

[slaneesh]

Is this possible in any way?

- Ive restored byzantium with all it former cores and conquered some provinces in the holy roman empire.
- Theres now a link all the way to Thrace (Capitol) From the provinces i own, within the holy...
- Ive Bribed (Bohemia) the emperor to above 100 relations.

Yet every time i try to Join the empire with more provinces i get the message "My Liege! The holy roman emperor has refused, NO_TEXT_FOR_KEY_PROVINCENAME entry to the empire"

Im asuming this is because im orthodox, however the message just makes me wonder if its a glitch.

 

[unmerged(60573)]

Nope..... Emperor will never accept a heretic province to join the empire.I wonder how you got an option to ask emperor to integrate one of your provinces in to HRE since you are an Orthodox nation ????

 

[SeverusFelix]

Phah, as though the Basileus would demean his Caesarship by playing along with the farcical western "holy" "roman" "empire."

 

[unmerged(170635)]

I got the same message as France, and this is only 1420. I think its a glitch since not even a catholic nation can enter.

 

[slaneesh]

Nope..... Emperor will never accept a heretic province to join the empire.I wonder how you got an option to ask emperor to integrate one of your provinces in to HRE since you are an Orthodox nation ????

Good point. I guess he newer considered joining up, and hopefully eventually rule the fake western.

War it is then. Untill i hit the dreaded overexstension

 

[EUROO7]

I got the same message as France, and this is only 1420. I think its a glitch since not even a catholic nation can enter.

Nope, I tried this with Venice and at first, Treviso joined fine, but when I tried to extend the empire to Venice, the emperor denied me and I got the same event as the OP.

 

[Black_Shade]

vassalize enough electors to become emperor yourself, then spread the empire to your provinces that way. it's the only way i found to get provinces into the empire since the current emperor always refuses even at +200 relations and an alliance.

 

[Scorpi]

hmm what about if you yourself is emperor, wouldnt it be possible then?

 

[Darkrenown]

This is about the 5th time I've posted this, we need a faq post. Anyway: The Emp will not let you join the HRE if you are larger than him or have 8 or more BB. Aside from that there's always a 50% chance he'll let you join if you have 100-149 relations with him. If you have 150+ relations the odds he'll let you in increase to 2-1.

 

[Scorpi]

This is about the 5th time I've posted this, we need a faq post. Anyway: The Emp will not let you join the HRE if you are larger than him or have 8 or more BB. Aside from that there's always a 50% chance he'll let you join if you have 100-149 relations with him. If you have 150+ relations the odds he'll let you in increase to 2-1.

No matter the religion?

 

[Darkrenown]

No matter:

#Asking to join province
country_event = {
	id = 9493
	title = "EVTNAME9493"
	desc = "EVTDESC9493"
	
	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTA9493"
		ai_chance = { 
			factor = 10
			modifier = {
				factor = 2
				relation = { who = FROM value = 150 }
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				from = {
					owner = {
						badboy = 8
					}
				}
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				NOT = {
					num_of_cities = FROM
				}
			}
				
		}
		add_imperial_influence = 1
		from = {
			hre = yes
			province_event = 9494
		}
	}
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTB9493"
		ai_chance = { 
			factor = 10
		}
		from = {
			hre = no
			province_event = 9495
		}
	}
}

 

[Cenobite30]

This is about the 5th time I've posted this, we need a faq post. Anyway: The Emp will not let you join the HRE if you are larger than him or have 8 or more BB. Aside from that there's always a 50% chance he'll let you join if you have 100-149 relations with him. If you have 150+ relations the odds he'll let you in increase to 2-1.

What would be the incentive for the emperor to refuse someone entry into the empire? The only one I can think of is the fact that the emperor doesn't expect to continue being the emperor so he doesn't want the next one to be too strong.

 

[Cenobite30]

Also, is the HRE a union tag for certain cultures? I don't know where to look in the game files for this, and I didn't want to start a whole new thread.

 

[Darkrenown]

I suppose the reason he doesn't want large or high-BB countries added to the empire that that they could then DoW other members and he wouldn't be called.

The HRE is not a union tag, no.

 

[luitzen]

No matter:

#Asking to join province
country_event = {
	id = 9493
	title = "EVTNAME9493"
	desc = "EVTDESC9493"
	
	is_triggered_only = yes
	
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTA9493"
		ai_chance = { 
			factor = 10
			modifier = {
				factor = 2
				relation = { who = FROM value = 150 }
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				from = {
					owner = {
						badboy = 8
					}
				}
			}
			modifier = {
				factor = 0
				NOT = {
					num_of_cities = FROM
				}
			}
				
		}
		add_imperial_influence = 1
		from = {
			hre = yes
			province_event = 9494
		}
	}
	option = {
		name = "EVTOPTB9493"
		ai_chance = { 
			factor = 10
		}
		from = {
			hre = no
			province_event = 9495
		}
	}
}

Except that non Christian provinces can't join the Empire.

 

[Darkrenown]

I assumed he meant in regards to Orthodox nations, since that's that the thread is about. Besides, you couldn't take the decision if you or the province weren't christen.

 

[luitzen]

I assumed he meant in regards to Orthodox nations, since that's that the thread is about. Besides, you couldn't take the decision if you or the province weren't christen.

That's what I was saying.

 

[unmerged(110676)]

Emperor refused me entry lots of times as Holstein. Just kept trying, eventually he allowed it.

 

[Alerias]

All I see is that you need to be Christian. Orthodox should work.

 

[Alerias]

Btw Catholics get refused to all the time. The biggest culprit is a line that makes the Emperor refuses everyone if his BB is too high. That should probably be the BB of the person whos trying to join instead