Joining a war

[FinnegansFather]

Early in the game, my rival declared a war of conquest on a small neighbor. I'd like to join this war, so I took what I thought was the direct route and made an alliance with the small neighbor that was attacked. Surprisingly, I am not being called into the war.

Is this WAD? Is this a glitch?

I suppose I could declare a war with the humiliation goal, but I don't really want to take his capital, I want to prevent his taking this neighbor's province, because that province would help him enormously.

 

[Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom!]

It's not a glitch, it's just not how the game politics work. Alliances are relevant to future wars, not current ones. If you want to intervene, you must raise your relations with the kingdom you are trying to protect to 100. Then, select the rival who is at war with them, under influence, choose "enforce peace".

It will tell you if the target will accept peace based on a few factors. If they accept, then white peace is declared, if they refuse, you join the war.

 

[bradles0]

You can also declare the HR cb and just focus on protecting the small nation's territories. But it should be easy to get the +100 with an ally

 

[deathbypie]

Your new ally COULD call you into their current defensive war, but only if they are above -25 warscore (so, not losing too badly). There is also a time limit, I think 30 months.

 

[hermithill]

It's not a glitch, it's just not how the game politics work. Alliances are relevant to future wars, not current ones.

This is not true, or this has changed recently.

 

[ELPhantomII]

This is not true, or this has changed recently.

It isn't. As the Great Horde, I ally Novgorod as they're getting wrecked by Muscovy and its vassals. Within a month or two, I get the defensive call-to-arms. This is in a 1.24 game I'm currently in the middle of.

 

[hermithill]

It isn't. As the Great Horde, I ally Novgorod as they're getting wrecked by Muscovy and its vassals. Within a month or two, I get the defensive call-to-arms. This is in a 1.24 game I'm currently in the middle of.

Thanks. I always ask, because I always play old patches (1.21 at the moment).

 

[Badesumofu]

Interestingly if you manage to declare a war and instantly be at 25 warscore, your target won't even be able to call their pre-existing allies in (unless that changed very recently). It can be a way to work around those pesky trade leagues. Note that if you fully blockade an OPM you will be at 25 WS.

 

[Braan]

If your goal is just to save the neighbour from being eaten and can't join the actual war, you can offer them condottieri for zero gold. They almost always accept, and assuming the attacker is not too big it can be enough.

You don't even get a truce for this which may or may not be a bonus.

 

[Bouchart]

You can always use Enforce Peace if you meet the requirements.

 

[bradles0]

Interestingly if you manage to declare a war and instantly be at 25 warscore, your target won't even be able to call their pre-existing allies in (unless that changed very recently). It can be a way to work around those pesky trade leagues. Note that if you fully blockade an OPM you will be at 25 WS.

(note that if your blockading fleet is fighting another fleet instead of blockading even for just the first 2 days of the war, it's not giving you warscore)