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An hour per day plus as much as you need to report what you have found is not really much.

Be sure I´ll put some some Dismember, Grave, Entomed, Marduk, Vomitory or any other nice swedish band in the CD player while I writte my "research of the day". :p

corbulo said:
Love the Flag - where did you get it?

Look at the postcount: yeah; custom avatar. ;)
 

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Vacceo said:
An hour per day plus as much as you need to report what you have found is not really much.
You'd be surprised how much people say nothing and disappear.

But remember, this is just the minimum. Good betatesters actually do the work that goes into the game, i.e. scripting and writing. They put forth ideas, concepts, and provide new insight. These are the backbone of the beta corps, and without them, Paradox would have a much harder time making their games. For examples, look at OHGamer of Victoria or Maximillian I + Steel of Hearts of Iron.
 

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Jayavarman said:
You'd be surprised how much people say nothing and disappear.

But remember, this is just the minimum. Good betatesters actually do the work that goes into the game, i.e. scripting and writing. They put forth ideas, concepts, and provide new insight. These are the backbone of the beta corps, and without them, Paradox would have a much harder time making their games. For examples, look at OHGamer of Victoria or Maximillian I + Steel of Hearts of Iron.

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I would love to volunteer as I really enjoyed beta-testing for EU3, but with my professional exams coming around every 8 months I wouldn't have the time to do the game-testing :(

If Paradox just want a historian to hang around the place and do some research then I'd be happy to help though.
 

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applied, hopefully i will be in rome too, after EU3 and NA :)
 

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Ishamael said:
2 months too young :mad:

Not nessasarily for you. Johan stated that you need to be 18 to sign the NDA (and not simply to apply). Applications are being accepted through mid-Nov. -- figure another 15 days or so for them to pick their testers.... you might just make the cut....
 

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As a diplomaed classical historian and very long term Paradox fan and also a studying for an informatics degree I could'nt let this opportunity pass !
 

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I'v also applied :)
 

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Jayavarman said:
You'd be surprised how much people say nothing and disappear.

But remember, this is just the minimum. Good betatesters actually do the work that goes into the game, i.e. scripting and writing. They put forth ideas, concepts, and provide new insight. These are the backbone of the beta corps, and without them, Paradox would have a much harder time making their games. For examples, look at OHGamer of Victoria or Maximillian I + Steel of Hearts of Iron.

While this kind of work is invaluable, dont forget that you also need a lot of people who find all the bugs which developers tend to produce. Actually really complex program (game or application) with a lot of features is nothing worth if it is unstable and has a lot of other bugs too. And the problem what I have seen in quite some open betas (not only Paradox) is that you have usually four groups of people:

1. the people who want to get a free game early. And those are the "testers" you will never see again on Mantis or Beta forum after they realize, that "beta" doesnt mean "free" but "work"
2. the people who want to give they "input" to the game without doing any work or report "features" they miss
3. the people who do actually some work and report stuff which is useful
4. the outstanding people like that ones you mentioned (and quite some more).
 

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Yay. 4 months too young. For once a game that does come early. :(
 

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Zwiback said:
1. the people who want to get a free game early. And those are the "testers" you will never see again on Mantis or Beta forum after they realize, that "beta" doesnt mean "free" but "work"

that is of course the problem, but i think those people will sort out themselves on their own.

Zwiback said:
2. the people who want to give they "input" to the game without doing any work or report "features" they miss
but one should not be demanding too. as a beta, i think your input is appreciated, but if a dev says, a feature will be in THIS way, it wont be done in that way, just because one wants it to be so.

Zwiback said:
3. the people who do actually some work and report stuff which is useful
...and not in mantis as a dublicate *g*
i think good overall computer skills are definitely needed, coding skills are good too imho :)
 

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Burning said:
i think good overall computer skills are definitely needed, coding skills are good too imho :)

Computer skills are normally good, but not everybody needs to be an expert. A game needs to be sold to a varied crowd so it should also be tested with less technical-oriented people. You don't need to have a PhD in computer science to be able to tell that you didn't understand a part of the tutorial and have been most valuable as a beta tester.
 

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tempted but my knowledge of the time frame might be too weak :eek:o
 

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corbulo said:
Love the Flag - where did you get it?
Custom Avatar. Another 2,773 posts and you can have one, too. :D
 
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