Jewish DLC

[anomanderus]

I loved all your ideas anomanderus, but doesn't the muslims also pratice male circumcision?

Not my ideas, just a compilation of the general ideas the thread has come up with. That way paradox has something to work with.

Also I note that the wikipedia article on muslim circumcision mentions that only the hadith asks for circumcision but the Quran and not the hadith comes from God in Islam.

While circumcision in Judaism was a command from God. But I suppose circumcision should also become an option for Islamic players as well as choosing whether or not to follow the hadith alongside the Quran.

 

[unmerged(237193)]

While circumcision in Judaism was a command from God. But I suppose circumcision should also become an option for Islamic players as well as choosing whether or not to follow the hadith alongside the Quran.

Good idea both Sunni and Shia follow the Hadith they view as authentic, so maybe the devs could add Mutazalites to represent not following the Hadith, I was rather disapionted some of the Caliphs weren't listed as Mutazalites.

 

[The Kingmaker]

There's some good ideas on this thread. This is sounding more and more feasible, especially now that even Hellenic religion is in the game.

 

[I Killed Kenny]

I would be sad for the Jew DLC, because I would still buy it, but never play it...

 

[Kapitalisti]

There's some good ideas on this thread. This is sounding more and more feasible, especially now that even Hellenic religion is in the game.

Except the Hellenic religion isn't actually "in the game", it's for the long dead Roman emperors. Might have been a colossaly bad idea to add it...

 

[DominusNovus]

I would be sad for the Jew DLC, because I would still buy it, but never play it...

Somewhat nonsensical (just don't buy it if you don't want to play it), but consider that it would likely be part of a larger DLC; just as Zoroastrianism improvements were part of the 'Pagan' DLC.

 

[unmerged(48397)]

Circumcision trait- not sure which bonuses but should give some kind of piety bonus due to it marking one as one of God's people.

Probably would be too much of a hassle to put in the game. After all, if there's going to be a circumcised trait (included for Muslims, too), it would need to be "activitated" every time a dynasty male or at least close male family member is born. I think that might get annoying real fast, and don't see a reason a Judaic (as in the religion) character would choose not to circumsice his son. Mostly, it's the technical thing, though. There's already so many things to click on and be mindful of, and that sounds like additional, unnecesary micro-management.

Rabbinical lineages- Great Rabbis emerged during this period as other posters have said and became renowned. Having one of these great Rabbis in your realm would increase the number of high-stat Jewish courtiers at your disposal and give you a relations bonus with foreign Jewish courtiers allowing you to steal high-stat Jews from rival courts.

I like this. Made me think of the significance of the Cohen surname:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohen

 

[anomanderus]

Probably would be too much of a hassle to put in the game. After all, if there's going to be a circumcised trait (included for Muslims, too), it would need to be "activitated" every time a dynasty male or at least close male family member is born. I think that might get annoying real fast, and don't see a reason a Judaic (as in the religion) character would choose not to circumsice his son. Mostly, it's the technical thing, though. There's already so many things to click on and be mindful of, and that sounds like additional, unnecesary micro-management.



I like this. Made me think of the significance of the Cohen surname:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kohen

Aren't the Kohens ancient?

 

[Summercat]

Aren't the Kohens ancient?

Indeed they are.

/Mother's family are Cohens.

 

[Isaios]

The only semi-interesting thing I could see about using circumcision in the game would be in the case of characters wanting to convert. Since every jewish boy is to be circumcised by the ... fourth(?) day, making that anything other than an auto-triggering event would be superfluous, but making the active choice as an adult, now that's a bit more interesting.

 

[alxeu]

I'm sorry if someone already said this, but what if there was a modifier on provinces stating "Small Jewish community" or "Large Jewish community" and so that way the game would take into account that community when spawning characters there. For example, if there was a Small Jewish Community in Paris, and the king of France spawns a courtier, there could be a 10% chance that one is Jewish. It goes up to 20% if there is a large community. Taking into account the prosecution of Jews in the period, have the communities either grow or shrink depending on how rulers react to these communities. There could be events resulting in Jewish people move their communities to other provinces, ensuring they are not completely destroyed. This same modifier could be applied to other religions. For example, in Jerusalem there can be a "Small Catholic Community" modifier. What do you guys think?

 

[Grubnessul]

Except the Hellenic religion isn't actually "in the game", it's for the long dead Roman emperors. Might have been a colossaly bad idea to add it...

Why was it a bad idea?

 

[GreatSlayer]

Why was it a bad idea?

Since people might want it expanded now when it's in the game.

 

[Grubnessul]

Since people might want it expanded now when it's in the game.

That's the kind of aspects where mods are for.

 

[Talq]

Since people might want it expanded now when it's in the game.

It has spawned a number of irritating threads (albeit mod action has reduced to one) and expections that frankly irrelevent aspects of the game get more dev time.

 

[Doukan]

The Hellenic religion was probably only put in with mods in mind (like the divine_blood tag).
That and to appease the history nerds outraged by catholic ancient Romans.

 

[VolitionNewlove]

It has spawned a number of irritating threads (albeit mod action has reduced to one) and expections that frankly irrelevent aspects of the game get more dev time.

Hopefully they've died down, now. We really should work on adding and improving surviving religions before we get worried about Greco-Roman, Egyptian, or Celtic faiths.

 

[Nocchi575]

End of the day it's never ever going to happen, it doesn't matter what the reason is. It's NOT happening. Get over it.

 

[Kyoumen]

End of the day it's never ever going to happen, it doesn't matter what the reason is. It's NOT happening. Get over it.

First, this thread is not for discussion about whether there will or should be a Jewish DLC. Please read the mod posts.

Second, that not only has not been said, the devs have said something else entirely about it: "Never say never." Please stop clogging the thread with misinformation.

 

[Nocchi575]

First, this thread is not for discussion about whether there will or should be a Jewish DLC. Please read the mod posts.

Second, that not only has not been said, the devs have said something else entirely about it: "Never say never." Please stop clogging the thread with misinformation.

It's not misinformation. It's cynic's intuition, I've been right since these threads started popping up, I've seen them come and go and the same thing happened, absolutely nothing. I decided to post this time.