Jarldom became a Republic after giving the title

[Flyingkiki]

Hi everyone !
I've decided to finally dedicate my time into CK2, and was messing around on Ironman as the Nantes and Retz count and starting in 867, so as a Norse.
I was focused on creating the Kingdom of Brittany, and between the 5-year truces I had some fun in southern Ireland, trying to get the Kingdom of Mumu.
I succeeded, and created the related Jarldom of Hlymrek, then tried to give the tile to my son, and then... he became a Grand Mayor and a Republic was born

Soooo, I don't really get what happened here...
Could it be related to his former title as Mayor of St Brieuc ? (yeah I tried some stuff...)

I have multiple DLCs, but Republic isn't one of them. I have Conclave, as I read it was a known bug previous to this DLC.

Thanks for any help !

 

[Seclouds]

the first holding he got is his gov type.
u should give him a country directly, he will follow your gov type to select castle to be a feudal vassal.

 

[afrodius]

I got a game over once making this mistake before I bought the Republic dlc. You need to either buy it or do whatever you can to make sure that son does not inherit your kingdom.

 

[majdavlk]

yes,its because he was a mayor

I got a game over once making this mistake before I bought the Republic dlc. You need to either buy it or do whatever you can to make sure that son does not inherit your kingdom.

he should inherit his kingdom and turn feudal because he got nrw primary tirle
.it usualy works like that for everyone exept nomads

 

[afrodius]

yes,its because he was a mayor



he should inherit his kingdom and turn feudal because he got nrw primary tirle
.it usualy works like that for everyone exept nomads

It's possible I was only duke level when I got that game over. It was a long time ago and I don't remember exactly, but my heir was definitely some form of mayor, and my vassal - so lower tier - and I got the game over when he inherited. The game can be kind of weird when it comes to government types. So better to not take any chances

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

In this situation you will normally get a new heir. But as above. Just to be safe you might want to buy Republic DLC. If not you might want to fight a war to revoke the titles from your (former) heir.

 

[HandicapdHippo]

I got a game over once making this mistake before I bought the Republic dlc. You need to either buy it or do whatever you can to make sure that son does not inherit your kingdom.

In this situation you will normally get a new heir. But as above. Just to be safe you might want to buy Republic DLC. If not you might want to fight a war to revoke the titles from your (former) heir.

The son is a republic not a merchant republic, standard republics are never playable. He is already not the heir so its not an issue anyway.

 

[Flyingkiki]

Thank you guys for your helpful answers !
Luckily he isn't my primary heir. But I didn't know that the first title would decide the "mindset" of the character, I should avoid filling my son's head with ideas of republic dream ^^ I was trying some stuff to deal with Gavelkind.

One more question, but I think I know the answer is no, but is it possible to anticipate the repartition of titles for a Gavelkind succession ? The only way I saw it was to rush for the Kingdom, and not stay with only Jarldoms/Duchies. Then I intended to give the Jarldoms/Duchies to my second/third sons, so my first one will inherit the Kingdom and his brothers the Jarldoms/Duchies. Does that sound right ?

 

[afrodius]

Yes if you only have one kingdom title, then you might lose some duchies or counties upon succession, but your kingdom will remain united.

 

[Castimirr]

Basically with Gavelkind, if you only hold one top-level title (whatever your highest title is) your lands will stay together, though most of your demesne will probably get split up.

This is one of the big differences between it and Elective Gavelkind. With Elective Gavelkind it will create any other top-level titles that you could create to give to your other sons, and those will go independent. Sons that get lower level titles also have the option to go independent.