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Avindian AAR I didn't know about, shame on me.

Well, caught up and subbed. :D


...if you sail through the pacific to get to the Americas and attack the AztecDragons, is it that the Land of the Rising Sun is Sunset Invading the Sunset Invaders?

Shame on you indeed! ;) I do think you're on to something with your remarks about the New World, though.

Do you have random New World?

Sure do!

Until you find the New World, I'd focus on getting colonies in the Phillipens. Lots of good stuff can come from having them.

I've definitely considered the Philippines a potential short term target, maybe moving into the OTL Dutch East Indies as well.

The north is the best route to the New World. From Mutsu, colonise Shiribeshi->Tokachi->Kamikawa->Sakhalin->Deren->Udskoye->Jugjur->Okhotsk->Taurina(sp.?)->Gizhiga->Kamchatka. From there, it's only a few non-open seas to Aleut. Out of those, Kamchatka is the only one that needs an army on it when colonising.

This is a CoP game, so 21st century knowledge about the Americas isn't valid.

Yeah, sorry! :)

Just finished catching up, great AAR! You had a lot of bad luck but in the end managed to succesfully unite Japan. Time to go for an early Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere :p

Interesting Asia. With a naval base on Taiwan and a proper navy, you could probably go after Ming at some point. Their 'Inward Perfection' modifier gives them terrible military penalties to the point where you can fairly easily defeat a much bigger army with only a slight advantage in tech (as I had to find out the hard way when I played them :( ).

WHERE DO YOU PEOPLE KEEP FINDING MY SECRET PLANS?!? :D Yes, the GEACPS is definitely a target.

I've always been skittish about China in PDS games, and I don't have a good reason why. I just am. That said, I want to consolidate as much of the low hanging fruit as possible.

I'm glad you're pursuing a colonial strategy - that combined with the randomised new world will make for a very interesting game. Looking at the screenshot, which you've posted in spoilers;

It seems as though you have left a very thing wedge of the random new world uncovered - there appears to be a large super continent spanning much of the north, and with one native tribe in sight in the very heart of this land mass. That tells us that there is at least some of the random new world close to you, and importantly it may be difficult for the Europeans to access so hopefully this will lessen the impact of your technology disadvantage!

I assume this also means that printing the world map ruins the surprise of the random new world for you - which is a bit of a shame.

The colonial game is pretty much the whole point of COP, naturally, but apart from some games of EU3 IN/HTTT, I've curiously avoided the New World in most Paradox games (except for a couple of games as the USA in Vicky 2 and in HOI3).

So, I'm going to play sometime in the next few days and have an update for you.
 

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Just checking in to remind myself to catch up. What I've seen has been great, Av! Very much looking forward to giving this the full attention it deserves. :)
 

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Can't wait for new world!!! Some rather interesting borders-everything in Asia seems separated into some major powers, Japan (of course ;)), Ayuthatta, Vijangayer or however you spell it, Ming and Zhou.
Europe also seems rather clean, surprisingly so. Yeah, that's really all I had to say. :D
 

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Just as well you switched Korea for Manchu, the Korean provinces are tastier if you decide to go for them, and what better beach-head to conquer China eventually? :D

Very true!

Glory to Japan! Let the Yamamoto sail! ((right, wrong game...))

Even if I were any good at EUIV (and today's gaming session leaves that seriously up to question), I don't think I can build battleships of quite that magnitude. ;)

Just checking in to remind myself to catch up. What I've seen has been great, Av! Very much looking forward to giving this the full attention it deserves. :)

Seems a bit schizophrenic to me, but who I am to judge my readers? :D

Can't wait for new world!!! Some rather interesting borders-everything in Asia seems separated into some major powers, Japan (of course ;)), Ayuthatta, Vijangayer or however you spell it, Ming and Zhou.
Europe also seems rather clean, surprisingly so. Yeah, that's really all I had to say. :D

That will get separated out a bit farther, I'm sure! (I have to admit, GUG, I was a little humbled to learn you're less than half my age.)

So, I had to do a couple of reloads, because I didn't get how colonial nations worked. (Also had a CTD.) I'll explain more in tomorrow's update!
 

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Where did you learn that????? :D
 

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Half of me really wants to refute that... :D

I see what you did there. :)

Sorry folks, no update today -- it took a LONG time to get to a point where I thought I had enough material for an update. I'll have one tomorrow, though. I promise!
 

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Chapter 7: In search of dragons

We start off the update with an event, good for 5 prestige, bringing us to +59. Hurray? More importantly, I get my first conquistador and start exploring the Philippines. It’s a great base tax area, and a jumping off point to Australia and the South Pacific. I learn about some pirates a bit later.

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The other option is a +20% to national tax for 10 years, but it would be a one-time cost of 143.51 ducats (and I presently have 33) and -50 to relations for Korea and Ming. If I got this event again, I’d say damn the consequences and choose the boost to national tax. I get a new military advisor -- +20% to colonial range. Not that exciting; I still don’t know where the New World is (except “east” – I’m pretty confident about that point). This happens in early 1542:

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Free admin is pretty nice, but if I ever got a +1 stability event, I might pass out. I get MIL 8 in August 1542. Okinawa gets on board with Shintoism a bit later.

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My new mission is “Colonize Cagayan”, which gets me a universal +5% to settler chance and +25 global settle increase for five years. Since Cagayan is 4 base tax, I was going to do it anyway. I learn in 1543 that Shiribeshi is going to produce Fish. Awesome. 1544 gives me another nice event.

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Manchu calls me into a war against Ming. Sorry Ming, doesn’t look good for you.

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I’m still hesitant to get involved in continental warfare, but that doesn’t mean I can’t blockade and sink ships.

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Thus ends my military contribution to this war. I get admin tech 5 towards the end of the year, which lets me fire this decision in 1545.

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A whole lot of nothing happens; I’m expanding my fleet hand over fist, earning money, and blockading Ming. That war ends in 1546.

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Here’s what Asia looks like after that war.

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I pick up another idea in 1546, and get my first national idea.

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1547 gives me a pretty awesome event that gives me an opportunity I’ve been waiting for.

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Shiribeshi finishes a bit later, and I start colonizing in the Philippines. I give my new explorer 21 ships and send him northeast. He returns in October with 8 ships, having only uncovered some sea zones. Ouch. My people are pretty angry and take it out on my Emperor.

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The new Emperor kind of sucks, but that new heir…

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Two images go through my head simultaneously – one of finally having a competent ruler; another of my heir spontaneously combusting. I know which is more likely; I’ve played way too much EU3.

About this time, I designate Brunei as a rival (which makes my rivals Korea and Brunei); seems like an easy place to expand, although I can’t get a CB on them… yet. Just to tease me, the game tells me the Emperor is sick.

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This takes me back to my childhood for a moment. Like most Americans of a certain age, I played the Oregon Trail on the Apple IIe in school. It was an incredibly simple game, filled with shooting entirely too many buffalo and trying not to get your friends killed on the way to the west. Good times. Well, there was a sequel made about 25 years later or so, called (wait for it) The Oregon Trail II. I even bought the Collector’s Edition. It’s a fun little game, has a lot more to do, requires actual thought, etc.

Anyway, one of the things you could get is bitten by a rattlesnake. Now, in the original game, the solution to all illnesses is sleeping. Oregon Trail II gives you options! Most of the time, they’re pretty logical. However, one of them for the snakebite is making the person exercise. I knew this would kill the pioneer every time (after all, poison gets to the heart quicker with strenuous exercise), but I couldn’t help but pick it, just because the mental image of making them do jumping jacks or something was so hilarious. “Are you sure this is going to help, Doc? I mean, I can’t really walk or anything, but if you say so…”

I give you this brief digression partially out of nostalgia (I highly recommend Oregon Trail II, which should be incredibly cheap at this point), but partially because I wanted the Emperor to get bit by a snake and exercise. Sadly, that did not happen.

In 1550, to mark a momentous year, I sent a diplomat to Venice, just to see if there was any way in the lower hells I could get an alliance; sadly, it didn’t happen. 1551 sees a seven regiment revolt get quickly crushed. I send my three Early Carracks east with my explorer, again, to try to find the New World. I get a bunch of gold from an event, that goes to replacing the ships he loses. (The explorer also dies). However, I have conclusively proven that there is water farther to the east! Perhaps not one of the greatest scientific accomplishments in the history of our planet, but one that, I think, needed to be made. Manchu brings into me another war with Ming (now allied with Korea) in 1552. I sink the Ming fleet, then blockade. I get a marriage and alliance with Dai Viet in 1553 (no real reason, just wanted something to do). Korea beats Manchu, but Ming surrenders to Manchu.

Here’s the result.

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Manchu ends their alliance with me, designating me a rival, causing me to chortle. I mean, Korea just beat the snot of you: am I supposed to be afraid of you? In 1555, I pick up another idea.

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That next idea is a doozy -- +1 to my colonists, letting me colonize (**does some quick math**) two places at once!

Some more nothing happens for a while. The people of Kamchatka are not thrilled with my enlightened leadership, it would seem.

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I’m only colonizing your stupid colony so I can stop losing ships for no reason! You can go on hunting seals or beavers or seal-riding beavers all you like, just let me dock ships there. They throw me out of Samtoy a bit later once I try that, leading me to immediately include some sort of international conspiracy. I decide to go back to Hokkaido (my mission was to turn Samtoy into a state, which failed, so now I have to colonize the Kuriles and Sakhalin).

Then nothing happens again until 1564. I get another free explorer and ship. He’ll probably sink too. It’s like telling them “go east until the water runs out” is too vague or something. I do get one more finished colony in Hokkaido and mil tech 9, but that’s it. However, I promise the next update will be more exciting. Why? Oh, just a hunch I have…

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Oooooooh! Japanese Conquest of Korea! Silly Kamchatkians-don't know when a blessing hits them! ;)
Oregon Trail is now updated for the iPhone and iPad, so our family owns both actually. It is a very fun game, though I haven't seen that exercise thing yet! :D
 

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A less exciting update, but laying the groundwork for some fun in the future.

And yes, Oregon Trail on the Apple IIe was awesome! I never got all the way to the end, but I got close. Years later, I was able to visit my approximate endpoint in real life. It was interesting to do so.
 

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Those pesky Kamchatkans. I always place a single regiment or more on any colony just to avoid that.

Yes, you're taking on Korea next! The first major step in the creation of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere!

Lol, Oregon Trail, what a classic. I always thought the only way to die was from dysentery. I personally preferred Yukon Trail because it was closer to home and you could choose to take a box of kittens up north with you. :p
 

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Finally, it's time for war with your oldest rival! I hope you can vassalize them in one go (I don't think so though :( ).

Those pesky Kamchatkans. I always place a single regiment or more on any colony just to avoid that.

Yeah, me too. Unlike EU3, after the natives attack their population stays the same, meaning as long as you have a regiment there (and don't attack the natives yourself) you will still get the native base tax/manpower bonus.
 

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