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So many ships sunk
You could walk to Korea
On a bridge of wrecks​
 

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Huh, Denmark owns Scandinavia, the Ottomans actually managed to conquer the Mameluks, the Hansa has gone on a spree in the northern Empire, as has Bohemia in the middle, and Bavaria in the south, and you say there are no surprises in Europe. Granted, compared to a positive stab event, all of this pales, but still....
 

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and you say there are no surprises in Europe.
Denmark own Scandinavia in almost every game, unless humans interfere. Ottos vs Mamluks is 50/50, Bavaria&Bohemia tend to team up against Austria and the Hansa, well they're by far the wealthiest guys in the north, and will inflate almost naturally, unless the emperor prevents them (or Brunswick get's lucky with PUs).
 

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Especially in the second battle, you're enemy is inland sea + galleys. Galleys are ridiciolously powerful in inland seas (that's why RL France had a significant amount of galleys till the dawn of steam ships).

Yeah, the galleys thing I knew (which I tip to my hat to devs, for, by the way: a future EUIV AAR will undoubtedly take place in the Mediterreanean).

Brunei is annoyingly hard to vassalise. You need to take three provinces before it's vassalisable (it took me three wars in my Japan game).

As for the inflation... if you think it's bad for Uesugi, try playing Takeda. Gold-mine OPMs are fun at the start. Then you see the finance overview.

Agreed on Brunei.

An empire without Austria...
I don't see that very often :D



You also need to have no overextension

And don't the units only come when westernization finishes?

Well, as a minor spoiler, I won't be westernizing in the next update, so no big deal.

Ulm still exists! Call Svip!

I thought about sticking my head out the window and shouting, but while St. Petersburg is sort of close to Denmark, I don't think it's that close.

Exzellent AAR! I subskribe!

Having previously followed Death and his antics I am once again happy to read this (and learn a lot, as I am much more nooob than you (hence the extra 'o')). It even prompted me to my first two tries this week-end. First trying to improve the fate of the Krim Tatars (inspired by today's Russian Imperialistic moves), failing miserably, and then joining the other side by playing Muscovy (ongoing).

I suspect Japan/The Far East is going to get an expansion at some point, giving us much more regionalized graphics and events...

Without entertaining and educating AARs such as yours a lot of people would not play Paradox games, I am sure! Just don't explaining the mechanics/problems as you encounter them, especially when trying to expand.

Thank you very much for the kind words! For what it's worth, AARs kept me playing Paradox games when the games themselves did not. (I am one of those unhappy few who bought vanilla HOI3, as an example).

Great update. Japan is not having things all her own way - not choosing a military or diplo tech was a good idea, there is clearly some catching up to be done. Korea may have made the defeat costly for you (a further blow to inflation?) but the lands you have taken from them will hopefully ease your economic pains.

That's what I'm hoping, at any rate!

Slow but steady expansion. It'll be good when you can reach Wake Island. Also, remind me which advisers you have. I'm playing a Russia game right now, and I just remembered that advisors are a good source of extra monarch points.

+5 to diplomatic rep, +10% to naval morale and... I think I still have the +1 prestige guy for my admin, but I won't swear to that. I've played farther than this update, so I can't give you a definite answer.

Just steer clear of Midway because Japan and Midway...can't end well :)

I have rendered my radio communications completely impenetrable by not having radios. Hah hah! You can't spy on me if I don't say anything!

Definitely true. Reading AARs like these way back in early EU3-times are what got me to buy CK2 and Victoria, and pre-order EU4.

I don't own Conquest of Paradise, so I'm anxious to see what kind of New World it creates in your game :)

Also, that is some seriously high inflation! Ah well, with the right advisor and the National Bank idea you'll be able to get that down to 0... in a century or two :p

Thanks for the kind words! I do not look forward to the absurd amount of time it will take to get rid of the inflation, though.

You navy took quite a beating in this update. In the end though it doesn't matter, since it's the armies that win the wars. ;)

That Europe looks interesting. The main colonizers look intact though so you'll have competition for the New World.

If only you knew...

That does remind me of one of my favorite WWII jokes. A Soviet and American soldier meet in Berlin; they get to talking and share their experiences. A couple of hours pass, bottles of whiskey and vodka are exchanged, and at the very end, the American asks "So, by the way, who won the air war?" The Soviet soldier simply shrugs and walks away.

So many ships sunk
You could walk to Korea
On a bridge of wrecks​

Man, that would be damned convenient!

Huh, Denmark owns Scandinavia, the Ottomans actually managed to conquer the Mameluks, the Hansa has gone on a spree in the northern Empire, as has Bohemia in the middle, and Bavaria in the south, and you say there are no surprises in Europe. Granted, compared to a positive stab event, all of this pales, but still....

Denmark own Scandinavia in almost every game, unless humans interfere. Ottos vs Mamluks is 50/50, Bavaria&Bohemia tend to team up against Austria and the Hansa, well they're by far the wealthiest guys in the north, and will inflate almost naturally, unless the emperor prevents them (or Brunswick get's lucky with PUs).

I will bow to shierholzer's greater wisdom here (as I often do in all things), but I'm more used to EUIII, where crazier stuff was a bit more the norm.

I'm planning to update no later than Friday, so be on the lookout!
 

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That's what I get for playing mods. Now I've made myself look stupid online. Time to disembowel myself.

I wonder, now that you have formed Japan, what are you going to do to challenge yourself?
 

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Apart from Denmark --> Scandinavia, it's not preprogrammed, but by no way a major surprise.

I really do need to play EUIV more. :)

That's what I get for playing mods. Now I've made myself look stupid online. Time to disembowel myself.

I wonder, now that you have formed Japan, what are you going to do to challenge yourself?

I think if everybody who did something stupid online disemboweled themselves, there would be pretty much nobody on it.

To answer your second question, how about an update? If that's okay, I mean. :)
 

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Chapter 10: Meet the New World, same as the Old World


Brunei, if you recall, was defeated in our last update, netting us Sabah. Manchu, apparently jealous over my tremendous success without them, brings me into yet another war with Korea. I am not war leader this time, sadly. Some things stay the same, though.

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I do complete my mission to make Majaphit like me, and my new one is to forge a claim on Kutei, which by a strange coincidence I wanted to do anyway. As if it feels bad for the number of times it has mercilessly destroyed my ships, the AI gifts me with a pretty awesome event.

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Largely without my help, Manchu beats Korea and takes their province. I begin to wonder at this point if Korea might be small enough to vassalize. I think not, but it’s got to be getting close, right?

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I get National Bank in December of 1603, which means I will, ever so slowly, eventually get rid of my inflation!

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If my trade fleets wouldn’t get sunk so often, I think that trade number would increase. Maybe it wouldn’t, though. In 1604 I get a new naval advisor -- +20% to colonial range, which I really don’t need, but it’s the best I’ve got for the moment. Brunei catches me in fabricating a claim – first time that’s happened all game – and possibly out of shock, my admin advisor dies too. Since the new guy is +5% to national tax, I manage to stave off depression. I finish claiming Kutei and choose a new, dare I say nigh impossible, mission.

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I wonder sometimes if I’m the only one who chooses missions more for the fact that if I don’t, I’ll forget to do something. Probably. I attack Brunei five years after our first war. Nothing much happens, except the death of my Emperor.

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Not picture: the 2/3/1 ignoramus that’s my new heir. I immediately begin looking for a tutor that can convince him he can fly. I mean, the worst case scenario is that he’s a flying ignoramus, right? The English Civil War breaks out in 1605. More importantly, I defeat Brunei in 1607, acquire Kutei, and begin planning my next target.

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I didn’t actually plan this – I just realized after I took Kutei that it gave me a border with Makassar. I picked up mil tech 13 shortly after this. Wake becomes self-sustaining in 1608, which gives me a solid base to consider my explorations eastward. Makassar catches me in the process of claim fabrication – what are my covert agents even doing these days? – but I begin my conquest all the same in September. This is Manchu’s cue, of course, to make sure I don’t get set in my ways. It’s Korea again, always Korea.

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At least this wouldn’t be boring, though. I mean, the Oirat Horde is something to be reckoned with. The Korean Army? Not so much.

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Why yes, my heir IS leading that army! He’s such a good sport, he insists on doing all of the dangerous things himself! Battles, sieges, poison taste testing, etc. What does that mean in the long run, though?

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What on earth did you do, Manchu?! Why does everybody hate us now? Since cascading alliances shouldn’t be a thing in EUIV (right?), there must have been a coalition against Manchu. A formidable one, too. The Oirat Horde attacks me for the first time a bit later, and the result is not a pleasant one.

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If only they’d killed me heir. No such luck. I get Debt and Loans – gives me a little less interest, should I take out loans later, which isn’t a bad deal – and my Army Reformer dies. I don’t have a lot of cash on hand, so I can’t hire a new one right now. Unless…

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Makassar, that saucy little minx, had a giant stack of cash. Well, had is the key word there. This event fires right afterwards.

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My new military advisor is +10% to National Manpower; I’m practically swimming in Manpower, so I don’t really need it, but it’s better than nothing for the present. So, I’m smacking around Korea at this point, thinking about how awesome it would be to vassalize them and so forth. I then reach a few realizations not quite simultaneously.

1) I can’t vassalize Korea, because I’m not the war leader.
2) Even if I were, I can’t, because Oirat Horde is the enemy war leader.
3) Even if they weren’t, Korea is still probably too large.
4) HOW ON EARTH DID AYATHUSA JUST INVADE THE HOME ISLANDS?!

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This was a very rude shock. Since Manchu didn’t tell me how many people it had infuriated, this made me start searching for a way out. I don’t want to lose land right now, especially not land in the Home Islands, that would give me a reason to fight some kind of protracted struggle against the Oirat Horde. I am not eager to do this. So, I make a humiliating peace that makes me take out a loan, but little else.

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I will get revenge on Manchu later. This helpful event takes some of the sting out of my defeat.

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The English Civil War ends a couple of weeks later, with the victory of Oliver Cromwell. I get a couple new ideas in 1612.

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More waiting, more waiting. I’m building up the navy, paying off loans, and building a dock at Wake Island. With Asia closed to me for the moment, I’m going to turn my aggression loose against the New World. The goal is to find some land, hopefully uncolonized (or an easy victory against a colonial nation), and then proceed from there. I do vassalize Brunei in 1614.

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I didn’t even lose any ships that time! Majapahit isn’t too happy with me, though, so I lose that alliance (meh, I forgot I even had it, just a target for vassalizing later now) and I get a fun new idea, good for -10% to land maintenance.

24 February 1616. After traveling east from Wake Island, we spot a big island. Much bigger than Midway should be. I already have a conquistador, so I eagerly prepare to engage my foe in terra incognita and…

“Would you like some tea, old chap?”

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a setback, obviously. For a moment or two, I’m distraught. However, I immediately see that relation gap and see possibilities. I lose my couple of ships to attrition, but I get an agreement with the British quickly for military access, so my brigade (and conquistador) are preserved. I hope they haven’t explored the entire New World yet, and at the very least I can use Ozark as a base, once relations improve enough (I’ll need about +75 or so; very doable).

At least this wasn’t a total loss, though.

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I’ll need to play again and of course, to devise a strategy against the hated British Imperialists. (I wanted to imperialize there!) Maybe when I update again, I’ll have a more or less complete map of the New World? Who can say?
 
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I would try to get a colony going next to them. Then westernise. Then get your money back from the Horde.
 

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That Kokugaku event is quite impressive. That must be why you posted a picture of it twice. ;)

Nothing worse than having a warmonger for an ally. It's the job of the player to be the warmonger and draw the AI into countless wars, not the other way around. :p

Those pesky British. They could have at least colonized one province on a two province island so you could settle down right next to them and westernize. :rolleyes:
 

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I remember a recent Ottomans game. Every time I DoWed the Mamluks, Crimea would DoW one of their neighbours within 5 minutes and call me to help. Every single time. In the end I chose to cut them loose. They ended the game as a OPM :D
 

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Coalitions are nasty, as is Ayutthaya. I found that the Elephant-Flag-People (Zōjirushi no hito?are a natural ally against the ever-present Beige Peril that is Ming, although you do seem to have upset them quite a bit... Manchu are more trouble than they're worth, it seems.

Also, did the British and Japanese diplomats simultaneously offer tea to each other in Ozark?
 

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Britain! And with Cromwell on top as well! :( Too bad for Japan, but they can always colonize Great Britain itself! :p
 

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Well that was a surprise... I guess the new world must be quite fragmented, so the British found an easy north west passage this time :)

I thought Ayutthaya would have gone for your provinces in Brunei, not Japan mainland... you need a proper fleet soon! :eek:
 

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Ah bad luck. At least we can infer that the British holding is relatively recent; they haven't formed a colonial nation yet. Should still be time and space for Japan to grab some land for themselves!
 

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I thought Ayutthaya would have gone for your provinces in Brunei, not Japan mainland... you need a proper fleet soon! :eek:
AI has no naval attrition, and to demand more than some ducats or 10 prestige, you'll need you opponents capital.

At least we can infer that the British holding is relatively recent; they haven't formed a colonial nation yet.
Well, with random new world, that's not certain. Random new world reuses the real new world colonial regions to create landmasses, and distributes all smaller islands amongst them - a island and no colonial region coul simply mean, that their parent region sits on the other end of the new world.