Japan naval invading with 0 naval supremacy?

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How is this Possible? What am I doing Wrong? I have more than 10000 naval supremacy in the area. I gave Japan a 50% bonus but I do not think it is related
 

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It is a known issue and has been reported. It happened to me while trying to invade Italy in my last game. The entire Med was 0% naval supremacy despite having a massive advantage by then.

I read on the forums that since spy stuff has been introduced that intelligence can make a difference in naval supremacy. So I set up a network in Rome and did a naval intel mission. I am not sure if any of that worked, since I was not monitoring it closely, but I do know that during that time my naval supremacy came back.

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For the record, I do not like this mechanic. Naval supremacy, in my opinion, should not be a mystical value that stops invasions before they can even start. If a country wants to claim supremacy, then that country should prove it by engaging your invasion fleet. Sitting at home port with empty fuel tanks does not make supremacy.
 
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How is this Possible? What am I doing Wrong? I have more than 10000 naval supremacy in the area. I gave Japan a 50% bonus but I do not think it is related
The AI doesn't need naval supremacy to launch naval invasions, it is exempted from this requirement. You're doing nothing wrong.

I don't have any proof of that. It's just what a lot of people say. That seems to be true in practice.
 
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The AI doesn't need naval supremacy to launch naval invasions, it is exempted from this requirement. You're doing nothing wrong.

I don't have any proof of that. It's just what a lot of people say. That seems to be true in practice.
Why, it just makes the AI waste hundreds of thousands of men and equipment units since the transports are intercepted. Sometimes a half dead cavalry divison slips through and lands on an island that you have to reconquer, annoying
 

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Why, I don't know. It's a question for the game developers, I'm just a player like you. Planning and performing a good invasion is hard for the AI, there are a lot of moving parts. In earlier versions, the AI didn't do naval invasions often if any at all. Now it does them much more often, but it's very bad at it. It will try to invade the same territory over and over and over again until it's out of convoys, or out of men. It's just dumb.

Are you playing as USA? If you're annoyed by the AI Japan's sneaky invasions on Pacific islands, just put cheap defense divisions on each island to ward them off. Or just let them invade and let them rot there, they're not really threatening you.
 
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