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Does someone made a better IA file for Japan?
I think the original Japan lacks agressivity. In my games Japan takes years to conquest the coastal China, it doesn’t defend well the French Indochina, it’s overrrun by Britain in Burma, defeted by the Dutch, and as some dificulty to conquest all the Philipines.
I think the problem is in the AI file.
 

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I think there is no problem. The Japanese did historically lose in Burma and did not take all of China either... so the AI is working like it should, or perhaps I should say that the Chinese AI has been improved to match the Japanese better.

Then again, how many games have you played with 1.3? Every game is different.
 

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^^In all fairness though, just because a nation 'historically' lost this or that does not mean that the AI should in any way be handicapped to the same conclusion.
 

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Jusas said:
I think there is no problem. The Japanese did historically lose in Burma and did not take all of China either... so the AI is working like it should, or perhaps I should say that the Chinese AI has been improved to match the Japanese better.

Then again, how many games have you played with 1.3? Every game is different.

Yes! The Japanese lose Burma, but in my games as Germany and Italy, four so far, and one with a neutral Tibet, they didn’t even conquer it. In one they lose French Indochina in 1940 to Yunnan, in other they lose it in yearly 1941 to the British. They never had a single unit in Burma; they didn’t conquer Singapore (the Thais did it in two), they made landings in Java just to lose a bunch of units. By the middle of 1941 Japan is a mess. Even without the war with US.
And, by the way, historically, I really thought that they did conquer all Coastal China.

I know that every single game is different. But in find them weak in all of them.
 

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Not weak in my game (normal/normal). Once I'd got them in the axis in late 1941 (bad choice as they declared war on USA straight away), I accepted the Chinese peace offers. This meant that Japan had to give up a lot of territory (draw a line from Shanghai west for the limit of their advance) but it did mean they could go invading elsewhere with the troops that the peace freed up.

Somewhere is due another big invasion looking at the stack on mainland Japan.

I think it may be related to the Japan AI looking at China and getting tied down there. Historical, so you have to find an ahistorical solution in order to get round it I guess.
 

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Zebedee, could you link me to the site you downloaded your skin - or did you mod it yourself? :)
 

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Sá Bandeira said:
Yes! The Japanese lose Burma, but in my games as Germany and Italy, four so far, and one with a neutral Tibet, they didn’t even conquer it. In one they lose French Indochina in 1940 to Yunnan, in other they lose it in yearly 1941 to the British. They never had a single unit in Burma; they didn’t conquer Singapore (the Thais did it in two), they made landings in Java just to lose a bunch of units. By the middle of 1941 Japan is a mess. Even without the war with US.
And, by the way, historically, I really thought that they did conquer all Coastal China.

I know that every single game is different. But in find them weak in all of them.

British ineptitude in Singapore and in the early part of the Burma campaign played a large role in the japanese success. It could easily have gone a lot worse for Japan, particularly if Britain had decided not put troops in Singapore or Hong Kong.
 

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Actually, it isn't the Japanese at all. It's everyone else in their field of play. WWII happened in a world that didn't really catch on to what was happening until it was in full swing. And then everyone exploded. Japan, Germany, Italy, and USSR were abel to gain what conquests they did because of this situation. The Axis or the Commitern could have won complete victory if they had been able to do a little more than they did. By luck the democracies of the world woke up at the last minute to find the theif in their backyard.

But in this game, that element of world doggidness does not fully exsist. Oh, sure there are restrictions to more democratic nations, but instead of alot of nations fighting for survival, it's as if all of them are bent on conquest. So now you have a Japan amidst a sea of enemies bent on conquest which was not the case during WWII. This means early in the war, Japan ends up on the defensive, primed and ready for alot of American invasions later on. My last game ended with most of the east of Asia all American blue.

I always rewt for Japan, and I wanted to see them do better as my Axis partner (I never include Italy, I want all their lands for Deutchland!). So I made several adjustments. Namely, I took alot of pressure off of them. Japan can handle most of it's neighbors, it's the combo of USA and USSR that give it troubles in the long run. Also Nationalist China can get a bit greedy as well. I kept seeking peace with them and kept Japan out of trouble with the Chinese lands it held. I took a quick decisive victory against USSR and forced a bitter peace giving Japan a sizeable amount of landmass in eastern Asia. With all my attentions on USSR, I did not begin an Afrika theatre until 1946. I also suffered two Normandy-sized invasions (both of them actually on the Normandy coast) which left a good half of my forces in a near shambles. Once bitter peace with USSR, I was able to refocus and finally kick the rest out of Europe (R-Spain, N-Spain, Portugal, Italy, Vichy). It took my first nuclear bomb to dislodge the Brits from Gibraltar. An expensive way to go, but it is a necessary port to own.

Japan was doing well but, USA was creeping up. I began mass producing ICBMs. I figured a good way to help Japan was stall the USA. Thus began the terror bombing of continental USA, and it has had a profound effect on their war contributions. I like to group 4 ICBMs together and hit one American province with each group of 4. A strategic strike with this method does alot of damage. Anyway, the USA stopped advancing. you could tell they were balancing economy and trying to recover, but I kept the missles coming. Also, I sent my last of two nuclear bombs to D.C. It's 1947 and I am anxious to see how Japan does this year. At least they knocked the USA out of Iwo Jima already.

One thing I will say about Japan, they do seem a bit slow when it comes to reclaiming territory that is right under their noses.