Japan does not attack the USA

[Rider_of_Doom]

In my current game with China (historical AI focus on), I noticed, that Japan does not attack the USA, although it has claimed the Philippines. It's now 1942 and the USA are still idling, while Japan attacks the holdings of the allies. That's not historical at all.

As China I did nothing which should stop Japan from doing that. And why was the separate focus to attack Pearl Harbor removed?

 

[Jlburch8400]

In my current game Japan took Guam and is attacking Wake Island as of 7 Oct, 1941

 

[Meglok]

In my current game with China (historical AI focus on), I noticed, that Japan does not attack the USA, although it has claimed the Philippines. It's now 1942 and the USA are still idling, while Japan attacks the holdings of the allies. That's not historical at all.

As China I did nothing which should stop Japan from doing that. And why was the separate focus to attack Pearl Harbor removed?

If you played China and chased Japan off the continent and WP'd them, they are not going to declare war on the USA. Even the ai can sort of count odds. And if you are still at war with Japan as China, they may not depending upon the the status of the war.

 

[Rider_of_Doom]

If you played China and chased Japan off the continent and WP'd them, they are not going to declare war on the USA. Even the ai can sort of count odds. And if you are still at war with Japan as China, they may not depending upon the the status of the war.

I haven't chased them off yet. It's in Status Quo ainxw 3 years, because Japan doesn't attack my border at all. Both sides are just sitting there, doing nothing.

 

[PAnZuRiEL]

I haven't chased them off yet. It's in Status Quo ainxw 3 years, because Japan doesn't attack my border at all. Both sides are just sitting there, doing nothing.

A completely stalled war sounds like a really good reason not to start another. Smart AI, in my opinion.

 

[Rider_of_Doom]

A completely stalled war sounds like a really good reason not to start another. Smart AI, in my opinion.

Well, they started another war against the Allies later (after the focus against the USA).

 

[Dan1109]

Well the Allies were weak as hell in the Pacific, but not the USA. Smart of the AI to not attack the USA, in your situation. In my historical game, JAP AI capped AI China, so while playing the USA, I fully expect AI Jap to attack me and the allies (haven’t look at at Jap focus trees but I pray for it to be a historical simultaneous attack, not Allies then USA later down the road).

 

[Misaka_Complex]

I haven't chased them off yet. It's in Status Quo ainxw 3 years, because Japan doesn't attack my border at all. Both sides are just sitting there, doing nothing.

I've also noticed how the new Japanese AI loses interested in advancing in China after losing 2-3 dozens of divisions and doesn't bother trying again. Not sure if I should say that the Japanese AI has "improved" when it still fails to have one unit to guard the ports, leading to the consistent case of repeated naval sudoku.

 

[Rider_of_Doom]

I've also noticed how the new Japanese AI loses interested in advancing in China after losing 2-3 dozens of divisions and doesn't bother trying again. Not sure if I should say that the Japanese AI has "improved" when it still fails to have one unit to guard the ports, leading to the consistent case of repeated naval sudoku.

Japan attacked my border at Bejing for 3 months and nothing after that except a few suicide naval invasions per month. Around 400k casualities for the whole war at the moment (after 3 years). Personally, for me, that doesn't feel "right".

 

[Misaka_Complex]

Japan attacked my border at Bejing for 3 months and nothing after that except a few suicide naval invasions per month. Around 400k casualities for the whole war at the moment (after 3 years). Personally, for me, that doesn't feel "right".

Yeah I feel you, even when its AI Japan VS AI China after around 3 naval Sudokus of 9-10 divisions each they just give up and lose all interest in advancing the front in China. The AI Chinese seems to be interested in pushing them back though, but AI Japan just remains idle after failing in the initial push.

 

[caedussl]

In my first run as Imperial Germany with historical focuses on they mopped China up by mid-1939, but never declared war on the allies (like ever). The USSR got into a war against the Central Powers (Germany, Austria-Hungary, Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Monarchist Italy and Poland). Allies guaranteed Poland so they were brought in when the Soviets attacked Poland (I was already fighting them when they attacked Finland and Poland joined me instead of the allies). The allies liberated the USSR to the Russian Fed., and Japan attacked them instead of the allies. They were taking historical focuses, and their war against Russia was a fabricated claim so not really sure what happened. They handily won their war against Russia and even though I was fighting the allies, they never attacked them. US stayed completely out and never even joined the allies. I got bored around 1944 so not sure what would happen after but it was quite strange.

 

[Misaka_Complex]

They handily won their war against Russia and even though I was fighting the allies, they never attacked them.

Did they like completely walk across Siberia?

 

[Dan1109]

Well, Japan indeed attacked me, but the new "war merging" feature is fouled up. Its got me in both an offensive and defensive war, which screws up my war support costing me several months of time to build up enough PP to use decisions to boost WS to get total mobilization.

One war is the Allies vs Axis and Japanese Faction. Another war is Allies and Comintern vs. Axis. It doesn't tell me if the war is offensive or defensive, unlike 1.4. As well, both wars state that the wars are going 24 and 32% in favor of the defenders, but the scale of the horizontal graph isn't at all correct. Looks like no one tested this new feature while playing USA.

 

[smellymummy]

i wouldn't dow the USA either if I was an AI and at war with china

 

[Ironside121]

Despite agreeing with everyone that the Japanese shouldn't attack USA in such a situation... they were still at war with China when they attacked the USA.. so I'm on both sides here. Attacking the USA in the first place was a stupid move by the Japs.

 

[Jorge Firebomb]

If you played China and chased Japan off the continent and WP'd them, they are not going to declare war on the USA. Even the ai can sort of count odds. And if you are still at war with Japan as China, they may not depending upon the the status of the war.

I don't know about that, I chased Japan off the continent and WP'd them, and then when the truce period expired they immediately declared war again, despite the fact I had 1.5 million troops in the field and they had 150k. Though I suppose their overwhelming naval superiority (I had my starting navy, they had 200+ ships) and vast air advantage (I had like 500 planes, they had like 2500) might have factored in, I really think they shouldn't have declared. I'm honestly even surprised they had any wargoals against me, it's not like I had any of their cores and I don't recall there being any Japanese claims on the mainland either, unless the stuff from the Marco Polo Bridge incident never expired / got cleared?

 

[random name]

I don't know why they removed Japan's focus to attack the USA, because FDR never does the Pearl Harbor Gambit.

 

[Ironside121]

I don't know about that, I chased Japan off the continent and WP'd them, and then when the truce period expired they immediately declared war again, despite the fact I had 1.5 million troops in the field and they had 150k. Though I suppose their overwhelming naval superiority (I had my starting navy, they had 200+ ships) and vast air advantage (I had like 500 planes, they had like 2500) might have factored in, I really think they shouldn't have declared. I'm honestly even surprised they had any wargoals against me, it's not like I had any of their cores and I don't recall there being any Japanese claims on the mainland either, unless the stuff from the Marco Polo Bridge incident never expired / got cleared?

The AI shouldn't invade you twice, I've had the same thing. Japan should lose all claims when they're forced to white peace- but don't. This was just a poor design/oversight by the devs.

 

[Jorge Firebomb]

I don't know why they removed Japan's focus to attack the USA, because FDR never does the Pearl Harbor Gambit.

I have seen the USA go down the Pearl Harbor gambit tree, but then never take the actual Pearl Harbor gambit because they won't put the necessary capital ships into Honolulu. It's super frustrating because if they would just put those ships there, they might actually declare a war eventually.

 

[random name]

I have seen the USA go down the Pearl Harbor gambit tree, but then never take the actual Pearl Harbor gambit because they won't put the necessary capital ships into Honolulu. It's super frustrating because if they would just put those ships there, they might actually declare a war eventually.

Since fascist Japan doesn't join the axis anymore (just non-aligned Japan does that now) a Japanese/American war is a bit of rarity. Since America always declares war on the axis via War Plan Black. You'd assume the Tripartite Pact would solve this issue, but most of the time America doesn't declare the war just joins the allies and gets called in by Britain. Being called into a war doesn't trigger the call to arms from the Pact.