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Topic, I think it's a bug. (There's always at least one Daimyo bug in each patch...). I was playing Shimazu today when I saw Japan DoW Yamana with the Reconquest CB (of Harima, where Hosokawa has a core). Japan then moved to annex Yamana. This, I assume, is not intentional, and simply adds to the number of ahistorical Ashikaga unifications the game already has. Can you fix this in the next patch? It's not too big of a deal if it's just Reconquest, but if Conquest and the new Sengoku CBs are included as well... Japan ends up being nearly as unplayable as it was in 1.7.0.
 

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That was a vassal bug, not a daimyo bug. But that's nitpicking, I guess. It was great nonetheless. Wanna form Japan in 3 years? Here you go!

I'm aware it was a vassal bug, but it was easiest to spot with Japan's situation. Although Ottomans annexing all of Poland by trying to annex Moldavia was pretty great too; so was the Alsace that annexed all of France with it.
 

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It just got worse. I made a bugfix for the problem by adding a MTTH = 1 day event which removes all daimyo cores on provinces other than those on the owner, and Japan declared war on Hosokawa for Conquest instead of Reconquest...
 

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Daimyo rivalry is messed up. The AI announces other daimyo as rivals, but they don't show up as such and I can't rival them either.

P.S. The plural of daimyo is daimyo. Daimyos isn't a word, and daimyo's means of or pertaining to daimyo.
 

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I hope this is being looked at, I wanted to try hosokawa and japan declared reconquest war on me for a province some other daimyo has a core on. Think this is about using vassals' cb, but it makes playing a daimyo kinda impossible.
 

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That was a vassal bug, not a daimyo bug. But that's nitpicking, I guess. It was great nonetheless. Wanna form Japan in 3 years? Here you go!

You can form Japan in around that time as any Daimyo in any patch, simply by allying a heavy majority of other Daimyo and declaring war for emperor. You then full annex Japan and become Japan, any allies you had go free, and any daimyo that were still under Japan become your vassals. Some of them are super easy like Uesegi which can ally every Daimyo with only small effort, others are a bit harder due to hostile attitude.

Of course, Japan using vassal CB is annoying and the bugged sakoku law will pretty much ruin a Japan that doesn't save scum to avoid the western trade modifier until done westernizing anyway.
 

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Is there a way to remove the ability to declare war on your own vassal, except to annex said vassal? Attacking your vassal with any other CB should block the action/button with some kind of cannot declare war on a vassal if you are the overlord of that vassal, similar to the massive blocks the hre has on warfare involving the emperor.

OR just make a shogunate government unable to declare war against a daimyo vassal. Simpler, realistic at least for ashikaga, but you lose some valid options perhaps.