He specifically clarified what he meant by that when people started taking the quote beyond what he meant.
- 1
-
We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
That's true,i admit it,however,i don't see what things could be reworked from now on.
- 1
That's a different issue entirely, and beyond their flavor packs (spicy hot take, I greatly enjoy them and want them to continue making them), I'd agree I can't think of any large scale overhauls that come to mind. The thing is though, I also thought that before the base tax to development rework, or institutions. So the next change changing expansion might be two or more years out; but "The game is complete" is a different complaint from "they can't work on it anymore." The later is what this thread is wrongly claiming.
- 2
That's the work of the devs to find new ideas of reworks anyway,or eventually suggestions from players.But even with Leviathan,there are some good changes like the new regencies.
- 2
- 1
Well i have few ideas.
1. Colonies and colonisation
2. South America, Middle East, Subsahara, Horn of Africa, Scandinavia
3. Unique Mission trees for nations belonging to above mentioned regions
4. Expand mission trees for certain nations
Example : Russia - Grant them mission to conquer Caucasus and Central Asia, France - Grant them missions to conquer North Africa and Subsahara
5. Add more holy sites
Example : Constantinople, Antioch, Kiev, Moscow and Carthage
6. More unique Government reforms
7. Rework Confucianism
Example : Add them more religions to harmonize. Instead of harmonizing entire Islam by harmonizing single Islamic denomination let player harmonize one by one. Culture convert thru harmonized religions, etc.
Those are some of my thoughts.
- 4
- 2
This is probably where the divide comes in; I don't really care about anything you listed there. I want an AI that isn't infuriating to fight and that manages it's finances better. Apparently the devs are unwilling or unable to do this in EU4. I haven't cared terribly much about any new features added in at least 3 years. To me it all just feels like bloat.
- 6
- 2
yeah, everything that was mentioned can be added by mods besides colonization overhaul, and if moddable content and overhaul of a single mechanic somehow would make eu4 last several more years, I would rather just move on to a new game.
- 5
- 1
I'm not saying EU4 can't still have work done to it, but that the work won't be truly innovative or the kind of work that makes the devs and players happy. I argue, based on what Johan said about wanting to rip out a bunch of current features but being unable to due to bloat, and the community response to "buttons" (which I don't really have an opinion on), that EU4 is not a good vessel anymore for the EU series.
Where are you seeing things about the current scope as well? If those things are still possible, then I hope they get implemented before the needed shift to EU5! But I could understand, and be fine with, nixing them for EU4, and rolling them into EU5.
- 3
- 1
This is my great fear for EU4. Since major overhauls and new mechanics are out, that only leaves smaller DLC focusing on flavor -- which while nice -- just cannot sustain the EU series in terms of wider interest, innovation, and new players. It might be profitable, but it doesn't make for a good game series.
I could be wrong though! There might be some brilliant ideas, while still functioning within EU4's bloat, that make for a dramatically improved game for all. I would argue a new game would simply be a better choice overall, but I would be okay with being wrong
- 2
Since Imperator launched I have played that much more than EU4 which I have all the expansions for. EU4 is not a bad game but since 1.25 and abit before it's got abit bloaty for me. Imperator has stronger bones for sure and for me that game is the future.
- 2
- 2
That's your opinion.
I think the game has had some awesome new features with recent DLC's like Rule Britannia, Golden Century and Emperor. Hardly I could define any of them as "downhill" (Dharma however, yes).
My only complain is with PDS releasing barebone sequels as a business model and then arguing that the new game already has more content than the predecessor on release a decade before.
- 5
- 2
You don't think Golden Century was "downhill?" I seem to remember the forums being up in flames because of how pointless basically everything in the DLC was, and how underwhelming its Iberian overhaul was
- 5
- 3
- 1
Just because other people thought, GC was bad and or pointless, doesn't have to meany that he thinks it's bad. The majority doesn't dictate everyone's opinions.
- 3
- 1
I just hope that whenever EU5 does come they use an accurate map projection, not one that makes northern regions too large and equatorial regions too small
- 2
- 2
- 1
Clearly we will have a new game announced at Pdxcon, It could be an EU5, I do not doubt it, more and more I see someone saying that by the time an EU5 should already be in development.
- 1
In addition to the common requests (dynamic trade, pops, replace mana), my basic wants for EU5 are for the game to prioritize immersion and more nuanced playstyles as opposed to the "paint-the-map" style, and also better immersion when playing outside of Europe.
- 3
It could be, but I really doubt it.
Leviathan doesn't even has a release date yet, and Johan has at least implied more EU4 expansions would be coming after.
I cannot see EU4 and EU5 coexisting like that, it'd be quite odd if they decide for it.
- 3
Assuming that it will be a grand strategy, the only option would be one in the Victorian Era, perhaps an East vs West, I highly doubt that there would be a game before the Imperator timespan or at the time of the Fall of the Western Roman Empire.
- 1