Its Conclave worth it?

[gmoney]

I like conclave so far. I like the new education system, and I don't have issues with my vassals. And if you are into eugenics then Favors are the way to go-that perfect genius, lusty, midas touched woman who normally wouldn't accept your invite because she likes her liege? NO worries-butter her up with a bribe, buy a favor off her and for less than 100g you have the perfect wife to marry off to your heir. Or do you want a claim on that neighboring duchy but only have a daughter to marry off? No worries-find a claimant and repeat the steps for the perfect bride. Then once they are in your court matrilineally marry the guy to your daughter, land him and invade at your convenience

I had more issues with the council when I played as a vassal than as ruler-constant civil wars especially with Reapers due killing everyone off Got to the point where I declared independence early just to have a few years of peace to deal with my satan spawn son

 

[Dr Gonzo]

my biggest problems with conclave are
1) vassals on the council can not join factions
2)the education system is worse due to the dlc making the gaurdian-ward relationship iralivent and causing children to come of age with around 4 traits
3) when changing a law only vassals in your council can vote instead of all your vassals
4)(anything the dlc does could be implemented 5x better e.g coucil voting , realm peace)
these are the reasons i have conclave disabled

I actually agree with basically all of this and I still think the game is much better with conclave enabled.

 

[HMatsunaga54]

It's half and half as far good and bad go. On one hand, you the ability to change out say elective or gavelkind in one ruler instead of banking on 3 rulers, who hopefully don't have a regent who shifts back the crown authority. On the other, there's no concrete way to stop your vassals from waging wars against one another and gaining power, and the fact you have to fight with council laws, which requires luck on that front.

 

[thevmag]

On the other, there's no concrete way to stop your vassals from waging wars against one another and gaining power...

Force Gavelkind, Demand Peace/Surrender; if council somehow has authority, Realm Peace.

and the fact you have to fight with council laws, which requires luck on that front.

When it's time to change laws, fill the council with sycophants and supplicants. Beg their support in exchange for a favour, pass your laws (ideally to limit council power and not have to beg anyone again), then replace them with actual vassals.

Vassals upset that they got fired/aren't on council? A little marriage and that non-aggression pact means no factions, ever

 

[aono]

Force Gavelkind, Demand Peace/Surrender; if council somehow has authority, Realm Peace.

There is now, at least in RD. You can demand your vassal to stop fighting another vassal.