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Is there a way to create the nation of Italy like Spain... Say you unite all of Italy as Savoy, (which is historical...) could you then be Italy or would you still be Savoy...

I mean, it's one of the flags here on my handy map!

 

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Cmon somebody throw me a bone... plz?

 

[BiB]

Not really. Savoy it'll be.

 

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Erm, so Italy can't be made like that? :'(

 

[BiB]

No. Hardly comparable either. Spain in the 15th century, Italy in the 19th and under quite different circumstances.

No GErmany either in case anyone was wondering.

 

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I wonder why it's a flag on the map then


And I had my hopes up too! WHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! :'(

 

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Here's something I'm SURE could be included in an IGC or other mod, considering the events engine.

So don't despair.

 

[Achiles]

A few questions.

1)Why was the italian flag included on the map if it isn't a revolter or a playable country in any scenario and can't form through an event like Spain does?

2)Why is there a Holy Roman Empire flag included on the map if it isn't a revolter or a playable country in any scenario and can't form through an event like Spain does?

3)Why is the Zulu flag included even though the teritory of the Zulu's was to a large extent located in the PTI?

 

[Demetrios]

Originally posted by Achiles

3)Why is the Zulu flag included even though the teritory of the Zulu's was to a large extent located in the PTI?

Run the 1795 scenerio and find out! Their territory wasn't all in the PTI at that point...

 

[Mariani]

What map are we talking about, here? What Italian flag?

 

[State Machine]

Sounds like the map that, apparently, is shipped with the game. The beta testers have never seen this map, so we have no idea.

I bet there were plans when the game was announced to include a feature like this, but it was dropped (before the beta, I can assure you). Meanwhile, the marketing people at SF put this stuff together.

 

[Mariani]

Ohhhh, a miscommunication involving the folks at SF? Imagine that!

Since most of my GCs end up playing like "Italia Universalis", a "unified Italy" event/option would've been sorta cool, but flamingly ahistorical. Not that Italy couldn't have been unified in the EU time period, but it certainly would have been the product of a single state's initiative; so just as Rome founded the Roman Empire, an Italy unified under whatever city-state emerged triumphant would probably not have become "Italy"...if y'follow. I'm rambling. Time for sleep.

 

[Paradox Interactive]

Originally posted by State Machine
Sounds like the map that, apparently, is shipped with the game. The beta testers have never seen this map, so we have no idea.

I bet there were plans when the game was announced to include a feature like this, but it was dropped (before the beta, I can assure you). Meanwhile, the marketing people at SF put this stuff together.

The map was made by us at Paradox as we wanted to include a surprise for you all

Patric

 

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Originally posted by Patric


The map was made by us at Paradox as we wanted to include a surprise for you all

Patric

You're the man, man.

 

[Vulture]

OOR... So there IS an Italian event that we missed?

No really, it wouldn't be historical within the EU II timeframe

 

[celedhring]

Yes, but it would not be a total nonsense if a nation controlling all Italy core territories gets an event proposing the creation of Italy. I mean, perhaps nationalism wasn't trendy yet, but Italy certainly existed as an entity (there was the kingdom of Italy crown held by the Emperor) so I can certainly see it. The same for Germany, although perhaps I would wait until the HRE is no more for that one (because, supposedly, the HRE IS Germany)

 

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1)Why was the italian flag included on the map if it isn't a revolter or a playable country in any scenario and can't form through an event like Spain does?

If it was handled like the Spanish unification, then the nation controlling Rome could form Italy at a certain moment. Imagine a 1 province Pope bcoming King of Italy

 

[Havard]

Originally posted by Constantine XI
Is there a way to create the nation of Italy like Spain... Say you unite all of Italy as Savoy, (which is historical...) could you then be Italy or would you still be Savoy...

I mean, it's one of the flags here on my handy map!

There is a way, but it's not implemented and hardly historic given the timeframe we are playing within...