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Dear Senators, I want to apologize if I haven't placed your bio on the page yet. In the last couple of days I was really occupied by the release of my scenario and in the upcoming two days I'm going to be fixing a problem with my server and its current inability to track your IPs.:D (Kidding, this is done for statistical purposes only) I will try to place your bios on the page the first free minute I get. Thank You.
 
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So what's the next step in this trial? As far as I remember McCollum has testified and renounced all heresies. Sharur has testified but I don't think you've asked him yet whether he renounces anything. Just let me know my cue for when the boni veri are supposed to make their recommendation.
 

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One other thing Meerschaum. It's a holiday in the USA on Wednesday so if you want any decisions before then let me know otherwise it will have to wait until Thursday.
 

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Originally posted by Storey
One other thing Meerschaum. It's a holiday in the USA on Wednesday so if you want any decisions before then let me know otherwise it will have to wait until Thursday.


That's fine. Sharur, I'll still try to have things wound up before the 7th.
 

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(The General Inquisitor turns from Senator McCollum.)

"Thank you Senator McCollum, that will be all. I do not think that there will be any need for further evidence from the Senator. We have before the Court affidavit evidence concerning the heretical beliefs espoused by Senator McCollum’s father, and there are others in this Courtroom who can speak as to the specific conspiracies hatched by Senator McCollum at his villa. Guards, please return the Senator to the Doge’s care. Kindly pass along to the Doge’s men that Senator McCollum should be afforded food and water and every other amenity that a penitent soldier of Christ could wish for.

Now, to return to Senator Sharur’s most interesting testimony. Senator Sharur, please assist me by answering these questions truthfully. Remember that you are under oath:

1. Your discussion of the heretics you have known and harbored in your lifetime is quite interesting. However, I note with some interest that your testimony failed to mention your co-accused, Senator McCollum. Senator Sharur, is it not true that on the both the night on which you were initially confronted by the Inquisition with a charge of Heresy and on the night before that, you were present at meetings at Senator McCollum’s villa?

2. What other Senators were with you at these meetings?

3. At these meetings, did Senator McCollum refer to Pope Pius V as a "monster who must be stopped"?

4. At the first of these meetings, did Senator McCollum advocate a policy of tolerance towards the followers and the teachings of Islam in any provinces that Italy might occupy in a future campaign against the hated Turk?

5. Have you yourself ever agreed to or advocated such a policy of tolerance for the Mohamaddans?

6. At the second of these meetings, did Senator McCollum advocate the passing of a Senate bill that would officially restrict the actions of the Pope, by making it an act of war between the Republic of Italy and the Vatican, should the Church in any way harrass or impede the goings on of Italian citizens.?

7. Senator. You were previously asked whether you ever advocated the removal of one or more of the Catholic Church’s spiritual leaders. You replied that you were of, and I quote, "the belief that our current Pontiff may not be the best possible man for the job. Certainly that cannot be heretical, as others were certainly voted for by the College of Cardinals." But your criticisms of Pius V have gone far beyond that, Senator, have they not? Indeed, did you not once stand before the entire Senate and categorically state "Senators, I know not how we should go about this, but we must SOMEHOW remove him from office!"? Similarly, did you not while conspiring with Senator McCollum at one of his meetings baldly state: "It is of the utmost importance that we do everything we can to stop this monster."? Senator, have you not tried to mislead this Court as far as your criticisms of the Papacy goes?

8. Senator, I previously asked you whether you had ever advocated the withdrawal of the Catholic Church from civil affairs? Your sworn testimony in response was, and I quote, "Not fully, of course, but one IS to give unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and unto God what is God's. Civil government should have first say secularly, and the Church spiritually. I do believe that the Church should play an important role in civil affairs, though. Certainly it is important for educational purposes, for keeping order, for helping the poor, etc., and I would definitely not advocate the removal of the Church from secular affairs." But, your heretical beliefs go considerably further than that, do they not? Is it not true that you have in the past stood before the Senate and said "We must at least officially sever all ties between the government and the Church, so that we are not so subject to his actions." Senator, have you not again tried to mislead this Court as to the nature of your support for this heretical idea of "Separation of Church and State"?

9. I previously asked you whether you ever sought to obtain for yourself a position of authority above that of the Catholic Church or its spiritual leaders? You replied no. But Senator, have you not in the past required your junior officers to swear allegiance to yourself, personally, in the hopes that such officers would ignore directives of the Church or General Bragadin?

10. Finally, in your testimony you referred to "some people in the Senate, I cannot recall who, [that] mentioned that they might want to kill the Pontiff." I heartily commend you for not joining in such plots, Senator. But, what are the identities of these Senators nefariously plotting to kill his Holiness? (The Inquisitor General picks up the Wallachian bone cutter, and admires it.) Is there some way that this Court can jog your memory?

We look forward to your answers."
 

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Originally posted by The Dude

Hey, can The Dude like ask the prisoner-dudes a queston?

(Father General Sarducci sighs and offers up a silent prayer to St. Mathurin - the patron saint of protection from "fools, clowns and idiots.")

"Yes, Senator Dude. Once the Inquisitor General has concluded his examination of the accused and his presentation of evidence, the boni viri will have the opportunity to ask any additional questions that they require in order to give the Court assistance in reaching its verdict.

I will let you know when that stage of the trial has been reached.

We are all breathless with anticipation as to the direction your line of questioning will take."

(Father Sarducci whispers an aside: "Indeed, the mind reels under the various possibilities . . .")
 

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Hello all. Busy week for me as I act as examinator for entrance exams which means I'm up early and back late to the office to participate or at least read your exploits.

Warspite :
1) I am happy to know the NPCs senators supporting a turkish crusade are a minority. I thought there were only a few of us (McCollum, Chevy Driver, me; any other ?).
2) btw the Lady is even free to go join her target. We just offered her to move away because we'd learned she had been more or less forbidden to leave without permission and because we wanted to throw Bragadin off from what he could do in order to help during the trial:D . Well actually it was also just for the fun of plotting:) .


Senator Theodoric Fournieri and sometimes his nephew Theobaldo II were present during the interrogation of the first one's colleagues by the inquisitor. Of course Senator Fournieri had not put his name forward as boni veri for two reason : first he was known to have supported McCollum in the Senate to oppose the Crusade and second the long tenure of his cousin as Pope Peter II had left his family with many ennemies in the Church who would have delighted in trying to discredit him whatever he could have done there. Even His Holiness was not a supporter of his family for all that Peter II had been instrumental in the recent rise of the man. So it was with dread that he was waiting for the conclusion of the court; should it order or recommend harsh measures he was sure the consequence would be dire for the Republic, perhaps civil war as there were rumors of the Republican Guards of McCollum having moved closer to Rome where the Pope's Holy Legion was currently under Bragadin's command. He had tried to distract Bragadin by removing the Lady Claes from the (confortable) confinement he was keeping her in but he was not too sure how much effect that had had. Well the dice was cast there and anyway Bragadin had never been a friend of the Fournieris for sure. Would that his cousin had named a commander loyal to the family to lead the Legion when he was still alive! Bragadin was a client of the Colonna, a purely roman family with strong interest in the Church and unfortunately perhaps he was no fool. Well it was too late to do anything easy there with Bragadin having become a favorite of His Holiness.
Taking a cup a servant had anticipated he would want, Senator Fournieri drained it and put it back on the tray the servant help. He then squared himself and tensed waiting to see what the Inquisitor would now do. He privately wished he could be or at least appear as relaxed as Senator Dude who was currently leaning back in his chair with his boots on the table on front of him,smoking his pipe and blowing smoke in rings in the air while watching them with a rapturous gaze. Fournieri had heard tales of some of the things Storia had brought back from South Vespucci; perhaps that was what it was. If it was something coming from the Sultan's country, Senator Dude would be wise to be a bit more discreet however seeing what mood the Church officials and the mob had displayed lately.
 

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Senator Storia watched the General Inquisitor hit senator Sharur with accusation after accusation. It was like watching a fist fight where one man keep hitting the other with a right then a left then a right again. Sharur took the blow like a pro seemingly giving way with each punch so as to not take the full force of the blow but how long could it last. He had better start counter punching fast or at least move around more and present a moving target. Maybe he was trying to wear down the General Inquisitor before launching his devastating round house hook to end the fight. Antonio could see the sweat on both opponents as they grappled with the power of the questions and answers that flew around the room. They couldn't keep this pace going for much longer. Someone was going to hit the mat before the day was out. Antonio wondered if it was too late to get in a quick bet with the local betting house. He would of course bet on his fellow senator at least he was pretty sure he would. He just wished Sharur would move his head more. Come on man duck weave move! All this was making Antoinio thirsty. He wondered if there was some wine available. Maybe senator Dude had brought some.
 

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Well, Mr. Sarducci, I will answer all of these questions as fully as I did those before.

1. I was.
2. I believe that Senators Storia, Carlotti, Gandalf, Posio, Paolo, Rex, perhaps Driver... hmm, I think I might be forgetting someone... well, let's see... Ponco-Jones wasn't there, I'm pretty sure, nor was Fournier. Who else, who else... ah, Senator Forster. I believe that's everyone.
3. I believe he might have.
4. I don't think he's ever been particularly tolerant towards the Turks, though he didn't agree with the idea of a crusade. But he might have, I don't really remember. Why don't you ask him?
5. Absolutely not!
6. I believe he discussed something of that nature. But I wasn't taking notes, so I can't recall exactly what happened that night. I'm sorry it's restricting my answers. If he'd introduced it in the Senate, then I'd remember, so I know he didn't do that.
7. I have not tried to mislead the court, no. I strongly oppose Pope Pius V, as I said, but I am allowed to do so. I have never wished him dead, however.
8. No, I didn't say that. What I said was that I was in favor of Doge Xanadu's proposal to dissallow having a family control both the Papacy and the Dogeship at the same time. Also, I suggested that we enact legislation cementing the idea that the Italian government is more powerful in civil affairs than the Church. I am sorry if you misunderstood me, not that you were present to hear what I said in the first place.
9. Well of course I demand their loyalty! An officer can hardly expect to maintain command if his juniors will not obey! As far as hoping that they would not obey the Church or General Bragadin, the Church and the General have no say over my men, so I would hardly need to worry myself over that.
10. I honestly can't remember. I believe that the idea was dismissed immediately, and I hope whoever came up with it confessed it to their priest immediately. (OOC: Meerschaum, I really DON'T remember, and I'm not searching all of those pages to find it.)

Once again, I promise to you that my answers have been completely truthful. I hope the truth satisfies you.
 

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Originally posted by Sharur
(OOC: Meerschaum, I really DON'T remember, and I'm not searching all of those pages to find it.)

I can sympathize with you on that. :) I had to find my bio on the first senator Storey and that was a pain. The size of this aar has made it impossible to go back and find anything over a week old.:(
 

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DOGE PALACE ROME
While the trial of generals went on less than a mile away, the doge was busy answering to some very irate NPC senators.

Doge by-tor was hammered with complaints from senators such as.

"why do we have this Vince Lombardi, a subordinate general waiting outside of rome. What are these rumors of battle between the Republican Guard and Holy Legion?? Why has it gotten this far i ask. By whos orders does the Republican Guard lay"

or

"This Papal inquisition and trial against Italian and Roman senators and generals is an outrage, the pope has no rights to hold our officials in this way, we demand action be taken to let the Pope know he is a subordinate to Italy and is under our jurisdiction, we are not under his."

or

"The Pope has a right to call for a crusade or an inquistition but he has no power in this land, only in his church, so anything outside of the church is under Italian authority, we senators cannot allow the Pope to wield power in this way. YOu must stop this trial Doge By-tor and put the POpe in his place."

or

"The Pope is doing what is good for the country, he has every right to call for a crusade even if catholic nations do not support it. He also has rights over all catholics including the senate, as a catholic myself, i give credit to the Pope for his leadership in dealing with heretical senators, its time the halls of government are cleansed of infection. Let this trial go on and be an example to all and for the future."

The NPC senators have voiced their opinions on some issues... run with it Doge.
 

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Originally posted by warspite
DOGE PALACE ROME
While the trial of generals went on less than a mile away, the doge was busy answering to some very irate NPC senators.

Doge by-tor was hammered with complaints from senators such as.

"why do we have this Vince Lombardi, a subordinate general waiting outside of rome. What are these rumors of battle between the Republican Guard and Holy Legion?? Why has it gotten this far i ask. By whos orders does the Republican Guard lay"
Taken care of..unless Lombardi wishes to defy an executive order.....


"This Papal inquisition and trial against Italian and Roman senators and generals is an outrage, the pope has no rights to hold our officials in this way, we demand action be taken to let the Pope know he is a subordinate to Italy and is under our jurisdiction, we are not under his."

Actually he does have the right , and it is totally within the churches power. Whether It's a valid accusation...well that has yet to be seen. The Senators are people too by the way. Also read the Treaty of Rome (right?)


"The Pope has a right to call for a crusade or an inquistition but he has no power in this land, only in his church, so anything outside of the church is under Italian authority, we senators cannot allow the Pope to wield power in this way...."

This very comment is what started this whole thing in the first place. Don't you worry I am working on it.



"he Pope is doing what is good for the country, he has every right to call for a crusade even if catholic nations do not support it. He also has rights over all catholics including the senate, as a catholic myself, i give credit to the Pope for his leadership in dealing with heretical senators, its time the halls of government are cleansed of infection. Let this trial go on and be an example to all and for the future."


Again this is a grey area that I am currently trying to figure out.


How's that?....
 

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Originally posted by warspite


As the confusion of the trial goes on, more senators grow weiry
approval rating drops one percent to 65%:D


Damn it Jim! I'm a doctor not a Doge!



:D
 

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Originally posted by warspite


As the confusion of the trial goes on, more senators grow weiry
approval rating drops one percent to 65%:D

But i think your doing a splendid job Doge By-Tor:)

And that one percent for some unkown reason improved my aproval rating to 1%:D
 
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Emre Yigit really came up with a great idea to add to the fun of this aar, he plays the role of Turkish ambassador. You know what, i like it.

I intend to recruit others to play the ambassador of either ENGLAND,SPAIN, POLAND,HUNGARY,FRANCE, and any others people want to role play. more fun the merrier:D