Well, people en masse are idiots and those idiots are killing that game pretty fast with their popular demand for "memes".
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Italy or Soviets, which do you think is coming first?
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During Russian Civil War it was dangerous to call themselves monarchist in White Movement armies because several officers were killed by other officers for that. The only exception being Drozdovskiy, because, well, he had army with him so he was tolerated.
The problem is that there were no monarchists among the purged, survivors of the Purge. Even among white emirgation they were minority. It's like adding Roman Pantheon worship to Italy branch because they are on the land of old Roman Empire
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tukhachevsky fascist route maybe, if Schellenberg's gambit be taken not as conspiracy\fabrication but as working option.
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Soviets and the Air War overhaul, 2 worst things in game right now , makes the most sense and would make the most money.
USSR should not have a monarchist path, just like they didn't put a communist path in Germany. What USSR needs is several different flavors of communism to pick between, with a possibility for a democratic republic one, and maybe a fascist one.
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I don't think it's fair to call people who want alt-history options in their sandbox WWII game "idiots" who just want "memes." What exactly is a "meme" path? I'll concede that most of the communist paths for countries like Japan, the UK, and the USA don't really belong in the game at all, certainly not in the way they are portrayed in the game right now, since they are so unrealistic and un-immersive.
That said, I don't think that Russia needs a Tsarist restoration path, because much like the aforementioned communist paths, it's totally out of the realms of even alt-history. I would only want to see Tsarist Russia as an Easter egg when you puppet Russia as a monarchist country.
As far as memes are concerned though, the Non-Aligned Rod Hull guy ruling Australia is really, really stupid and needs to be patched out.
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Actually yes. There should be no Communist Japan branch just because was absurd at that time. Or Communist USA. There is a limit where alt-history turns into Red alert-level wackiness.
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USSR NF branch is absurd, often with random bonuses with no relation to...anything, even basic in-game logic. After four years of "Luxembourg DLCs" and neglect of the main opponent of the most played country of HoIIV no amount of band-aid solutions will fix situation where SOV AI cannot cope with Axis pre-war buildup and amount of industrial bonuses.
I's like spending huge amount of resources to repair a garage when half of your home is crumbling.
Paradox generally reworked two majors and some minors with each DLC. I suppose Italy and USSR would be a logical solution but, knowing Paradox, will not be surprised that it will be Turkey and Italy or Italy and Ethiopia or Italy and Iran, bit not USSR.
I's like spending huge amount of resources to repair a garage when half of your home is crumbling.
Paradox generally reworked two majors and some minors with each DLC. I suppose Italy and USSR would be a logical solution but, knowing Paradox, will not be surprised that it will be Turkey and Italy or Italy and Ethiopia or Italy and Iran, bit not USSR.
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Well, I'm not even surprised at this point. USSR has long been the "unwanted child" in the HOI4, since the release if to be precise. Just take a look at it during release and compare, let's say, German focuses with the Soviet ones. See the difference? Germans have content and logical alt-historic paths to shape the WW2 into something different while still plausible. Sure, those paths could use some more expansion but point remains. Soviets "enjoy" the shitty tree which has little to do with actual history and serves the only point to delay them from doing anything other than sitting and watching focuses which do nothing but change each other. Land doctrines? Let's guess, who gets the shittiest one of four? Whatever new mechanic is added with DLCs or new focuses, related to diplomacy or something, Soviets are unable to use it or even react to changes in geopolitical landscape.
So, I'm not surprised with anything happening with HOI4 and morally prepared to another spit in the face in the form of another huge content expansion for the minor, which didn't even take part in WW2, while the real major power which won the war with Germany on the land for the Allies remains in the same sorry state it was in from the beginning.
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Personally i do not see a reason that a reform to the USSR and the Italian focus tree would forfeit each other. Therefore i can very well imagine both countries getting new trees within one expansion.
As of yet, each expansion featured several big focus trees and without a doubt both mentioned majors deserve one. Also doing them would mean a huge leap forward for all players as those majors generally have a big impact on the course of the game: To produce a historical immersive game while AI is part of the matter, an (initially weak) USSR should be able to make a comeback and Italy should run the risk of losing stability if certain conditions are being met. In the latter case we also do not have the game being able to produce the historical multi-belligerent situation with the RSI. When it comes to minor countries, i'd consider Finland, Turkey and Greece as the most requested minors to receive custom focus trees.
A main foundation ingame mechanic that requires an overhaul is the surrender / peace deal mechanic. An overhaul would mean special rules / conditions that create specific outcomes. This would make sense for both countries - Italy becoming unstable after some severe military blows and the USSR possibly sueing for a bitter peace as we had it in prior incarnations of HoI. Along the way, the effect of countries changing sides like Finland, Rumania and Bulgaria as most prominent examples next to Italy could be handled as well.
While the addition of new decisions could create the desired (or even required) ingame effects as well, the problem of postwar border gore and the course of peace conferences in general often create frustration or even ire to players after an exhausting campaign they invested so much time in... To get some kind of logics into this and therefore more reasonable outcomes in general, the mechanic needs a keen hand and effort on the part of the devs.
Touching land war would help all powers and all theatres of war. But I'd not say that land war is totally off in general in the current state. The mechanics do work and they do it on a logical basis. However, AI definitely requires some scripts (one for each major) to produce a plausible amount of tanks and AT, too. As of yet, AT is useless outside of MP and major land offensives are driven by non-efficient INF on the part of AI. To get more interesting situations and a more challenging AI opposition, dev work must be invested. The required refinement would not necessarily be extraordinarly high. If the dev approach instead touches and changes the basic mechanics, the whole game will have to be changed as balance will totally go off otherwise.
If it comes to an equipment designer, i see a priority of a plane designer more than a tank designer as tech levels of planes get much more outclassed and thus have a greater impact than do outdated tanks in the game. Also, the phenomenon of many early development planes staying competitive throughout the whole war via upgrades can absolutely not yet be simulated.
This may sound like a wishlist and to some degree it is.
The game is about to finish it's fourth year after release. It could easily make another few due to the quality of game design and ingame content available and possible. But due to the severe limitations of the ancient game engine (graphics, game laaaags, OOS errors) it won't make it as long as an EU IV. I see room for several more expansions in terms of content but still believe that it only has 2-3 years left at best until the lack of performance will relegate it to the shelves for most now active players.
To win back former players into activity and attract new ones, the remaining DLCs have to be interesting / content heavy and appeal to many players at once. After the above mentioned changes the late war (among it the wunderwaffen stuff?) needs to be treated and maybe a case sensitive cold war scenario. More is to be imagined but given the mini-dev-team they have, i do not see much more coming within the next two years. Please do not forget that creating a new HoI V will require years of work without revenue and to me it seems the team really isn't big enough to do several tasks of such size at the same time.
As of yet, each expansion featured several big focus trees and without a doubt both mentioned majors deserve one. Also doing them would mean a huge leap forward for all players as those majors generally have a big impact on the course of the game: To produce a historical immersive game while AI is part of the matter, an (initially weak) USSR should be able to make a comeback and Italy should run the risk of losing stability if certain conditions are being met. In the latter case we also do not have the game being able to produce the historical multi-belligerent situation with the RSI. When it comes to minor countries, i'd consider Finland, Turkey and Greece as the most requested minors to receive custom focus trees.
A main foundation ingame mechanic that requires an overhaul is the surrender / peace deal mechanic. An overhaul would mean special rules / conditions that create specific outcomes. This would make sense for both countries - Italy becoming unstable after some severe military blows and the USSR possibly sueing for a bitter peace as we had it in prior incarnations of HoI. Along the way, the effect of countries changing sides like Finland, Rumania and Bulgaria as most prominent examples next to Italy could be handled as well.
While the addition of new decisions could create the desired (or even required) ingame effects as well, the problem of postwar border gore and the course of peace conferences in general often create frustration or even ire to players after an exhausting campaign they invested so much time in... To get some kind of logics into this and therefore more reasonable outcomes in general, the mechanic needs a keen hand and effort on the part of the devs.
Touching land war would help all powers and all theatres of war. But I'd not say that land war is totally off in general in the current state. The mechanics do work and they do it on a logical basis. However, AI definitely requires some scripts (one for each major) to produce a plausible amount of tanks and AT, too. As of yet, AT is useless outside of MP and major land offensives are driven by non-efficient INF on the part of AI. To get more interesting situations and a more challenging AI opposition, dev work must be invested. The required refinement would not necessarily be extraordinarly high. If the dev approach instead touches and changes the basic mechanics, the whole game will have to be changed as balance will totally go off otherwise.
If it comes to an equipment designer, i see a priority of a plane designer more than a tank designer as tech levels of planes get much more outclassed and thus have a greater impact than do outdated tanks in the game. Also, the phenomenon of many early development planes staying competitive throughout the whole war via upgrades can absolutely not yet be simulated.
This may sound like a wishlist and to some degree it is.
The game is about to finish it's fourth year after release. It could easily make another few due to the quality of game design and ingame content available and possible. But due to the severe limitations of the ancient game engine (graphics, game laaaags, OOS errors) it won't make it as long as an EU IV. I see room for several more expansions in terms of content but still believe that it only has 2-3 years left at best until the lack of performance will relegate it to the shelves for most now active players.
To win back former players into activity and attract new ones, the remaining DLCs have to be interesting / content heavy and appeal to many players at once. After the above mentioned changes the late war (among it the wunderwaffen stuff?) needs to be treated and maybe a case sensitive cold war scenario. More is to be imagined but given the mini-dev-team they have, i do not see much more coming within the next two years. Please do not forget that creating a new HoI V will require years of work without revenue and to me it seems the team really isn't big enough to do several tasks of such size at the same time.
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That's a nice summary of TIK's YouTube videos.
I thinke he's correct in many points, but is too black and white, probably because it sells better.
The south strategy has downsides as well: imagine how long the front would have been and thus vulnerable to counter attacks and encirclements. Oh wait, we saw exactly that in Fall Blau the next year.
You also don't get Finland to join the war unless you head towards Leningrad.
The three main problems were:
- vastly underestimated Soviet strength and resistance (German intel was off by over 200 Soviet divisions plus reserves)
- complete lack of logistics
- oil for only 2 months of offensive campaign
Attacking on 3 vectors lead to achieving 0 goals due to the aforementioned problems.
Then again, heading straight toward Moscow without securing the flanks could have been disastrous as well.
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Most ppl interested in italy just want fancy stuff like "i want a monarchy", and in matter of historical run theres no much stuff to improve, just more naval war? improve UK ai to have a better mediterranean clash?
Soviet is more complex teather and should involve a deep revamp of land warfare. So by far will involve a more complex, interesting work.
If Italy dont come togheter with a Soviet Union DLC, it will be better suited with a 2nd revamp of sea warfare to fix MTG flaws, perhaps a really big Aircraft carrier warfare improvments, amphibious sea/air combat.
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Historically speaking, Italy is as correct as having the country replaced with Chef Boyardee's Spaghettios Legions.
It is so wrong, it's literally impossible within the game for Italy to act as it did and to suffer what it did and inflict what it did during WW2. None of it exists and is possible.
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A full year of developement is more than enough to fix things for USSR and another major
Italy fielded 2.5 million men often with equipment worse than ww1.
What if they fielded say.... 500,000 men instead of trying to form a titanic human wave in the desert? They managed to just barely arm 5 times that number. They could have probably armed 500k quite well.
To represent the Italian experience in game imagine arming 2.1 million men with 1918 period infantry equipment with the remaining 400k actually getting modern equipment. That 2.1 million men you find quite quickly is next to useless and you might as well have sent them home rather than arm them in the first place. And much is made about how few artillery pieces they had. Well if they kept their army size smaller they would have had 5 times as many pieces per man. And it's not like they were fighting on the Russian front, their fronts were either fronts to defend (alps against France) and are easily defended, or fronts where huge armies are a liability (North Africa.) Point is, Italy even a historic Italy could have been quite damned effective it's just that the country was led incredibly poorly.
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That depends a lot on what countries besides the majors they want in it at the current pace, and how many of those.
Poland is a candidate for a rework as well, and there's an array of other countries too that would fit nicely with a soviet DLC.
They did actually. Initially it might have been a single corp but in 42 they expanded it to an army of about 235000 men.
Germans used baltics and other poorly equipped or trained troopes as garrisons and police force in occupied regions.
Generally devs reworked two majors and several minors.
Germany, USA, UK, Japan, China, France, Spain have been reworked. Poland get their NF tree reworked in United and Ready flavor pack.
Only two majors remain - Italy and USSR.