Italy nuking Los Angeles (and humiliating the US-Navy)

[Simon_9732495]

Ok, so getting naval supremacy in the carribean sea was the hardest thing so far in this run.

Here is the plan for my naval invasion:

Spoiler: Naval Invasion of the USA

Why like this?

• I don't go north because of the bad infrastructure. I wanna land and rush and not grind.
• I don't go middle because of the heavy resistance. Lots of divisions there and a lot of navy. (There were a lot ships in the sout too.) [And a bit flavor. Feels not right to land directly in New York or Washington]
• In the south I aim directly at the ports, because I think they are not guarded. If there is resistance I can always turn aronund and think again. (Could have sent scout U-Boats to look, but was too lazy.)
• Florida has a nice Airport and I can quickly connect if I land from both sides.
• My invasion force are 6 times 2 divisions of 14/4 infantry.
• 24 Tanks are waiting in Puerto Rico. Another 24 on the way over the Atlantic.
• I have Air in the carribean but the landing zone is not in reach. Have to capture airports fast.

After I gave the invasion order on the 25.10.1943 a big naval battle happend, which I described in the Postings before. The invasion forces weren't bothered and so the first landing happened on 31.10.1943:

Spoiler: First Landing

The first landing was one tile next to a port, because I thought the port was on this tile... Thank's UI! But I could push the coast guard back and take the port.

Other landings were succesful and so on 04.11.1943 we had already captured 3 ports.

Spoiler: More Landings

At that moment the Tanks got the order: Capture Chicago, very agressive please! Go! Go! Go!

And on 11.11.1943 the first 12 Tanks landed on US soil.

Spoiler: First Tanks landed

9 days later when the other 12 of the first batch arrived, we had already overrun Georgia.

Spoiler: 24 Tanks landed

Another 3 weeks later and we have already established a nice "beachhead". The USA should have realized by now, that they have a serious problem.

Spoiler: Progress

But talking of problems: I realized that moment that I also have a big one. It looks like that:

Spoiler: Big Problem

Lots of german Division sailing over the Atlantic...
I need another 443 days until I research Nukes. If the Germans defeat the USA before that, my achievement is gone.

Totally forgot about that in my game plan... *facepalm*
I should maybe have waited with the invasion.

Ok 3 options now I think:

1. Pull back out of the USA, and hope the USA can push back the few Germans. Research Nukes and do the Invasion again.
2. Stay in the USA but don't help the Germans, maybe even stall them (I could put useless troops that just eat support into the USA. Any other Ideas?) and hope the USA holds until I have Nukes. At that point attack again.
3. Kill the USA, give Los Angeles to Germany in the Peace Deal, research Nukes, declare war on Germany, get the achievment by nuking german Los Angeles. (Risky because you never know what happens at a peace deal)

Which option should I choose? Or do you have another idea how to solve my problem?

 

[kettyo]

Feels not right to land directly in New York or Washington

Not exactly as you can imagine the millions of oppressed Italians in New York take arms to support their brothers

 

[Simon_9732495]

Not exactly as you can imagine the millions of oppressed Italians in New York take arms to support their brothers

One of my First Naval invasions of the USA landed in New York. I think it failed...

 

[kettyo]

One of my First Naval invasions of the USA landed in New York. I think it failed...

Maybe the different schools of pizzamaking caused a tension

 

[Simon_9732495]

I decided to dig in and wait in the United States.

Made a nice line behind the rivers Ohio and Mississippi:

Spoiler: Dig in in the USA

I think my fear that the Germans would overrun the USA was too big. They are just sitting there and doing nothing. The USA is also not attacking, so we are having a "phoney war" in 1944 in the middle of the USA.

In the meanwhile I can tweak my fleets and polish my tank Army for the attack on the USA if I have my nukes ready.

What' interesting is, that the USA are not contesting my naval supremacy in the carribean and around Florida. They don't send larger ships.

 

[SophieX]

Looks good.

Consider to attack first in direction to the great Lakes, in order to "cut" the US into two halfs, before going westward like the red arrow shown on the map.

 

[Simon_9732495]

Looks good.

Consider to attack first in direction to the great Lakes, in order to "cut" the US into two halfs, before going westward like the red arrow shown on the map.

I'm going to push West first to get air superiority in LA to secure the achievement.

But I think it will be a cakewalk anyway, because at this point I have 54 Tanks in the USA:

Superior Firepower Right Right Tank:

Spoiler: Tank Template

On the other hand, the USA has 200 Divisions on that Frontline.... We will see...

 

[Simon_9732495]

13th April 1945. Italy has produce it's first nuclear bomb. (Could have been faster, I used the Electronics buffs on Electronics not on Nukes...)

The offense against the USA starts.
The USA has mobilised 200 Division for Homeland defense. And they built a lot of forts.

Spoiler: USA Offense Start

I dug in behind Rivers, so now I have to overcome entrenched Divisions in Forts behind Rivers.

How do you do that?

Checklist:

• Attack plains from Multiple directions -> Check
• Air superiority and CAS -> Check
• Use General Ability "Makeshift Bridges" -> Check
• +10% Attack over River from Support Engineers3 -> Check
• Planning Bonus -> Check
• General is Engineer -> Nope
• Division have high Experience -> Nope
• High Soft Attack, Breakthrough, Armor and Hardness ( = a good Tank) -> Check

Result: 3x 800 Soft Attack over the River. (Couldnt bring the CAS into the battle, the combat lastet less then 1 day.)

Spoiler: Combat Statistics

The Lines on the Mississippi River are broken:

Spoiler: Mississippi broken

 

[Turista]

Noice. Don't forget to produce bombers to use the nuke. Almost there

 

[Simon_9732495]

2 Weeks after breaking the line on the Mississippi River we have advanced already 1000 km to the West.

Spoiler: Mississippi overrun

Let's concentrate on the achievement before the USA capitulates.

Deploy 1 captured strat Bomber with LA in range:

Spoiler: 1 Strat Bomber

Snake with 2 Tanks to the Airport in Arizona

Spoiler: Snake Arizona

Put some fighters there and fulfil the requirements for nuking:

Spoiler: Nuking Requirements

8th May 1945. The Atomic Bombing of California (victory day )

Spoiler: Atomic Bombing of California1

Spoiler: Atomic Bombing of California2

Spoiler: Atomic Bombing of California3

Achievement complete:

Spoiler: Achievement

 

[elektrizikekswerk]

Congratulations

 

[Simon_9732495]

After the Nuke was dropped on LA everything went down quickly for the USA. It was only a bit more than 2 more weeks until:

The Allies capitulate on 25th of May 1945: (And Italy has the highest warscore )

Spoiler: Allies capitulate

War against the USA was another Blitzkrieg like the war against the UK.
From first italian Soldier on US soil to the capitualtion it was only 10 weeks. (With a 1.5 year pause in between where the USA could build forts and deploy a lot of divisions.)
Not much for a country that big.

My equipment losses in that last 6 weeks where my Tanks overran the USA were ridiculously low:

Spoiler: Comabt Log

Peace Deal was not perfect but ok.
I got the USA and Mexico as puppet and a lot of the allied territory I occupied before the peace.

Spoiler: Peace Deal

Unfortunately Germany got 2 small Puppets in Bulgaria and Romania and took a lot of "my" UK.

But they will not be able to enjoy that very long, because "little" Italy (that is no so little anymore with the USA and Russia as puppets) will stab the big Germany in the back soon....


What do you think:
Should I join the Japanese faction before I declare on Germany and Vichy France?

 

[kettyo]

And Switzerland is happily managing accounts in the meanwhile as always

 

[Simon_9732495]

And Switzerland is happily managing accounts in the meanwhile as always

But not for long, because I also have "Roman Ambitions". Prepare the golden laurel wreath!

 

[kettyo]

But not for long, because I also have "Roman Ambitions". Prepare the golden laurel wreath!

They will continue the same as a Roman protectorate

 

[Simon_9732495]

Christmas, 24.12.1945:
The preparations for the Attack against Germany are finished. A wargoal was justified.

The German faction consists of Germany and Vichy France and some smaller puppets.
My intel says that the German Army consists of 4 Million Men and the French Army of about 1 Mio.

I have fielded the first Army Group with 120 Infantry Divisions consisting of 1.2Million men from the United States (my puppet)
and the second Army Group with 120 Infantry Divisions consisting of 1.2Million men from the Russian Empire (my puppet)
and of course my main fighting power the Tank Army Group with 78 Divisions with 1.3Million men from Italy.
The third Army Group with about 1 Mio men is guarding all the importants borders across the Italian Empire.

The plan is simple: Another Blitzkrieg. Break the Lines, encircle them, overrun their Divisions.

Spoiler: Battle Plan

The Italian Air force that consists now of 16.000 Fighters, 11.000 beeing Fighter3s and 5000 Fighter2s, will assist and guarantee air superiority, I hope.

Spoiler: Air support

Attack to take back our rightful (Roman) Lands!

 

[Harin]

Christmas, 24.12.1945:
The preparations for the Attack against Germany are finished. A wargoal was justified.

The German faction consists of Germany and Vichy France and some smaller puppets.
My intel says that the German Army consists of 4 Million Men and the French Army of about 1 Mio.

I have fielded the first Army with 120 Infantry Divisions consisting of 1.2Million men from the United States (my puppet)
and the second Army with 120 Infantry Divisions consisting of 1.2Million men from the Russian Empire (my puppet)
and of course my main fighting power the Tank Army with 78 Divisions with 1.3Million men from Italy.
The third Army with about 1 Mio men is guarding all the importants borders across the Italian Empire.

The plan is simple: Another Blitzkrieg. Break the Lines, encircle them, overrun their Divisions.

Spoiler: Battle Plan

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The Italian Air force that consists now of 16.000 Fighters, 11.000 beeing Fighter3s and 5000 Fighter2s, will assist and guarantee air superiority, I hope.

Spoiler: Air support

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Attack to take back our rightful (Roman) Lands!

I noticed that you have 91 PP and it is almost 1946. What are you using them on? I might need to start using them better than I have been.

 

[Simon_9732495]

I noticed that you have 91 PP and it is almost 1946. What are you using them on? I might need to start using them better than I have been.

Last picks were:

• I took the Captain of Industry instead of the war industrialist, because I'm building refineries now, because I have 500 MILs and Japan has all the Rubber and Closed economy
• Anti democratic raids to push party popularity and stability a bit
• 3 "Prospects for Resources Decisions" for +68 Oil in near east, because I need A LOT of Fuel

And as I think about it, I should have taken the Air theorist, because I'm reseraching some more Air doctrines right now.
And the Oil was too late.


Speaking of Fuel:

I need 70.300 Fuel per day at the moment.
To cover that insane amout and fill the reserves I import 1200 Oil from the United States for 15 CIVs (good to have puppets...)
Which gives together with my not so small Oil holdings a whopping 135.100 Fuel per day.

How much do you have Germany?

Spoiler: Fuel

 

[Harin]

Last picks were:

• I took the Captain of Industry instead of the war industrialist, because I'm building refineries now, because I have 500 MILs and Japan has all the Rubber and Closed economy
• Anti democratic raids to push party popularity and stability a bit
• 3 "Prospects for Resources Decisions" for +68 Oil in near east, because I need A LOT of Fuel

And as I think about it, I should have taken the Air theorist, because I'm reseraching some more Air doctrines right now.
And the Oil was too late.


Speaking of Fuel:

I need 70.300 Fuel per day at the moment.
To cover that insane amout and fill the reserves I import 1200 Oil from the United States for 15 CIVs (good to have puppets...)
Which gives together with my not so small Oil holdings a whopping 135.100 Fuel per day.

How much do you have Germany?

Spoiler: Fuel

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Thanks for the reply. From your response I can see I need to re-examine my ministers and other leaders more often to see if they are the correct fit for the moment.

That is a lot of fuel. I am playing UK right now and it is only 1940. When a strike fleet goes out my fuel drops from green to 20 days until empty. I have to micro my fuel usage. I need to capture some oil fields as soon as the opportunity presents.

 

[Simon_9732495]

I have underestimated "Operation Stab-In-The-Back" a bit.
Beating a 1945 German-Vichy-France-Alliance that has won the WW2 is a lot harder than beating a 1941 Soviet Union, or invading the UK or the USA.

I thought I'm clever and justify and declare my next wars in the time when I'm at war with a major, because than its 15 days instead of ~100 days per country. (I still need to conquer Switzerland, Spain, Portugal and Turkey to build the Roman Empire)

So I quickly declared on Switzerland and Spain and as I presssed the button, I realized that this was not so clever:
I can't defend Gibraltar against Spain, because it's surrounded. They can just wear my Org down from all sides.
That means, Gibraltar is lost:

Spoiler: Gibraltar is lost

I thought: Who needs, Gibraltar, I still have Suez, and looked over there...
Just to notice that I LOST SUEZ

I don't know what exactly happend, I didn't get a notification of a naval invasion and the "Syrian National State" has been liberated, is not a puppet and not in war.
I think the French maybe still had exiled Divisions in my territory that came alive as Germany called them in. And of course Germany quickly sent Divisions over the Med.

Fact is I lost it and now time is ticking, because I can't get US-Oil due to beeing locked in the Mediterranean Sea.


In France I have two Armys defending and it's not enough.
The Germans and French are pushing me and I got "Dunkirked" (encircled and pushed into the sea) in Dieppe.

Spoiler: Push in France

In the offense against Germany I'm not able to rush through the Alps and Czechoslovakia and have to go the long way: Ukraine -> Poland -> Germany.

Spoiler: New Plan

And after pushing through Switzerland, Spanish troops are at the Gates of Milan. The war has reached Italy!

Spoiler: Gates of Milan

I completly forgot how much fun Late-Game can be!