Italy leaving the empire?
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Can some one tell me what I did not do? Shadow Kingdom still fired on me. Friaul is the only territory not in the HRE but owned by me as Austria and being cored. I do not mind events like this but I am very frustrated with the game not explaining what it wants done. I have read different posts and my understanding was Venice and The Papal State territory had to be under the control of a HRE member which I have done but event still fires. Venice is gone and the Papal State is an HRE member. I have played multiple games trying to figure this out and am getting very frustrated and annoyed that the game it's self does not give a clear answer on what needs to be done.
This is an ooold post, but I think it's pretty clear that you must add your provinces INTO the hre as well as having them cored
It's the problem with the event. The territory being owned, controlled, and cored by a HRE member isn't enough. It needs to be literally added. Since the AI foolishly refuse to add territory unless they are the emperor, the only options are to force-feed the sitting emperor or to take and core it directly.
I'd hate to repeat myself, but this is exactly my gripe with the current situation. In every other major event there is a chance that history takes a left turn for example Iberian Wedding and Burgundian Inheritance. At the moment the only ways to avoid the Shadow Kingdom are more or less gamey.
I think Paradox have noted that they very nearly just removed Italy from the Empire entirely.
aye, as said many times in this thread, just leaving there to be chance to UNDO the change is more than generous to players.
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I am a little bit disapointed by this event, don't misunderstand me i like this event but even those who have good relations with the Emperor leave the HRE almost systematically even more if they are seriously threaten by France and there no way for them to join back the HRE. Of course when you play an italian nation you have the choice to leave it or not but the AI seems to always choose to leave it.
I would like some kind of rework about this, in order to add more dynamic in this area, depending on various parameters like relations, missions, prestige or even legitimacy i don't know.
I would like some kind of rework about this, in order to add more dynamic in this area, depending on various parameters like relations, missions, prestige or even legitimacy i don't know.
http://www.eu4wiki.com/Triggered_modifiers#Submission_to_the_Emperor
They probably don't want these mali.
They probably don't want these mali.
If a player got the submission to emperor modifier, and then culture shifted out of Latin group, would they still get the modifier?
What if there's an event where, if before the shadow kingdom fires, and a member of the HRE owns territory both in the Kingdom of Italy that isn't in the empire, they can either choose to add it to the empire and release it as an independent HRE prince, or keep it for themselves, paying to core it and add it at a later date?
In my current game, Austria warred Venice and the Pope (thanks to its ally Sienna). It ended up owning all of Italy bar Rome and the minor islands. It added all of this to the HRE. The event still fired.
I really, really like the event, but the AI needs to be able to deal with it in a non-moronic fashion - give something so the AI can at least try to get Rome in the HRE if they are close to keeping the event from firing.
I really, really like the event, but the AI needs to be able to deal with it in a non-moronic fashion - give something so the AI can at least try to get Rome in the HRE if they are close to keeping the event from firing.
Yeah, requiring Rome as part of the HRE pretty much garuntees that the AI will never be able to avoid the event.
Actually, this would be preferable than just simply truce = no coalition.
If, and only if, you could negotiate separate peace deals in coalitions.
Otherwise, coalitions have enough fake war score blocking nonsense already. The threat from a temp alliance should come from its military, not from its ability to bypass rules that are otherwise consistent and siphon off its penalties for losing while creating long truces.