Since I don't know where the event is located, I gotta ask here : Do I have to conquer those non-HRE stuff to make them HRE or only the HRE lands(like in Venice)?
Italy leaving the empire?
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I really think that besides Romagna, the popeman's stuff should not be included in the HRE Italy region for the purposes of this event.
But you did get it right.
Also, did I read that right? "... reject the Empires right..." - where's that ' there? What's next? Will we see "I claim your a bastard, Emperor!" or it's like in EU4? Where has the grammar gone?
But you did get it right.
Also, did I read that right? "... reject the Empires right..." - where's that ' there? What's next? Will we see "I claim your a bastard, Emperor!" or it's like in EU4? Where has the grammar gone?
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It would also really help if the AI would start adding their provinces to the HRE.
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Uh. Taking Rome will make Pope pretty angry though... How am I supposed to be a devout Catholic and also conquer & add Rome to the empire?
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It just means you have to take the imperial provinces in italy or they will leave the empire
Does this mean we will have events to get Netherlands and Switzerland out as well?
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Afaik Netherlands is kingdom rank anyway, so forming it would kick you out of HRE. There isn't a Switzerland event dont know why.
Anyway, suggestions on how to deal with this and keep Italy in the empire? It won't be able to get any Papal influence that's for sure...
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Do YOU have to take them, or does the HRE need to take them? Feeding some Italian HRE member sounds like a winning plan to me. Maybe taking Rome and adding it to the empire and then spitting it back out, albeit at probably like 400 admin to core there, could work too right?
I looked up the Event file. Here is Basically how it works.
The first event starts everything off is this one:
Event id = hre_event.1 "The Shadow Kingdom"
It pulls whoever gets it out of the empire - No Choice.
It the triggers other events giving the other Italian princes the choice to pull out or not.
(The AI will always accept unless it is a vassal of the Emperor in which case it will always refuse.)
There are other parts dealing with HRE Italian territory held by non-princes, and notifications.
The basic options for avoiding event #1 are:
You can watch all of this happen by starting from the 1492 bookmark. The event has a MTH of 1 year.
The first event starts everything off is this one:
Event id = hre_event.1 "The Shadow Kingdom"
It pulls whoever gets it out of the empire - No Choice.
It the triggers other events giving the other Italian princes the choice to pull out or not.
(The AI will always accept unless it is a vassal of the Emperor in which case it will always refuse.)
There are other parts dealing with HRE Italian territory held by non-princes, and notifications.
The basic options for avoiding event #1 are:
- Expand the HRE to all KoI provinces. I am having trouble thinking of any way to do this without conquering (and core-ing) all of mainland Venice and the Papal States.
- Make sure it has no valid targets. Any HRE prince with a capital in Italy who is not the vassal of a German overlord can get this event.
You can watch all of this happen by starting from the 1492 bookmark. The event has a MTH of 1 year.
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So it seems rhe event is kind of difficult to prevent, though is it worth it with newly inxreased coring costs? Well Milan/Tuscany and such are pretty useful acrually dont know maybe I'll try that.
If I couls just make them vassal of a German though... That would be easier but dont know if it will work in new patch
If I couls just make them vassal of a German though... That would be easier but dont know if it will work in new patch
Has anyone else seen this happen before? I'm not sure when it occurred in my game, but it was almost certainly in the last 10-20 years, because I remember Siena being a free city until Tuscany conquered it somewhat recently. Is there some new event that can cause this? Or an old event I wasn't aware of?
Happens in 1500 if any provinces in the Northern italy region are owned by countries which are not members of the Empire. Essentially, you have to beat up Venice as the Emperor, or help the Emperor beat up Venice.
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The new patch made it so circa 1500 Northern Italy leaves the HRE to promote more fighting over the area to keep it in the HRE.
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You should have gotten a pop-up early in the game explaining that if not the whole of Northern Italy is inside the HRE by 1500 or so, all of Italy will leave
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New event chain. Northern Italy leaves between 1480-1490.
It's supposed to incentivize the great powers fighting over Italy, as happened historically. Time will tell if that is the result.
It's supposed to incentivize the great powers fighting over Italy, as happened historically. Time will tell if that is the result.
Would England get the Popup? I should think that would be a HRE or Member only thing.
There might have been, if, ah, *ahem* something hadn't happened to France.
Anyway, thanks for the fast reply. This is pretty cool; it makes me excited to try another Tuscany->Italy game.
I'm fairly certain only HRE states get the popup event. I didn't get it as TO until I joined.