It sucks that Albania requires more RNG then Austria in the beginning to have a good start

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makaramus

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Can I then get an example of a country wich doesn`t expand right in the beginning except for pacifist France.
austria
ming
aztec
portugal
castille
england(if you dont force france union... I hate doing this because makes game way too easy)
denmark
bohemia

I know you wanted "an" example but I hope multiple ones are ok too
all of them are able to start aggresive if you want to do world conquest but these nations expected to play as slow start.
 

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austria
ming
aztec
portugal
castille
england(if you dont force france union... I hate doing this because makes game way too easy)
denmark
bohemia

I know you wanted "an" example but I hope multiple ones are ok too
all of them are able to start aggresive if you want to do world conquest but these nations expected to play as slow start.
Anyone who starts in the HRE and wants to be emperor really, Burgundy as well
 

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Recommendation to everyone responding to this thread: it depends on the mythology, but most commonly, Trolls are described to have a preference for sugar-rich nutrition.
You might want to consider that when feeding him.
 

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League of Lesche was more of a revolt inside Ottoman land, then an actual free country.
But even if we say they were independent they should start in a war with Ottomans.

So just a fact that they are not even at war with them is a lot, and getting guaranteed is a major plus.

I really dont get why Albania or most of the countries for that matter should have special mechanics?!

And also Austria doesnt need special mechanics, as HRE has special machanics, and honestly Austria is HRE.

They used to start at war but paradox removed all the start of game wars. Not historical necessarily but that's the choice paradox made.
 

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I simply cannot understand how someone can conclude that Albania should be easier to play than Austria or that they should be protected in some way at the beginning of the game when the player is playing them.

That said, I can see how it can be frustrating to restart the game 30 times before having the optimal conditions, as I did that with Byzantium a few months ago. I wonder if there could ever be a "roll the initial rivals" function in which you would be like in the antichamber of the game, but could determine this most important value without restarting the game.

Also, maybe a "feature" to not restart the game each time you end a game. Stellaris managed to do it.
 

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It's just a difficult start, like wallachia, Athens, Byzantium... And it should continue like that. If you want an easy start just play Ottos, France, Ming and countries like these.
 

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If I understand correctly the OP is angry that he can't declare, as Albania, into Ottos on day 1, and get support from a bunch of countries and win?....There are so many things wrong with that train of thought that I can't even put it into words.

Oh and OP if you want you can go into debt, build a fleet and just no CB one of the Irish minors and go colonize from there....or something :D
 

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Also, maybe a "feature" to not restart the game each time you end a game. Stellaris managed to do it.
Stellaris was built on top of a clean (and much more recent) build of the Clausewitz engine.

EU4, on the other hand, has bugs from EU3 in it - because it was literally built on top of EU3.

Y'know how the start date selector bugs out if you ever click the backwards arrows? That's an EU3 bug.
 

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Stellaris was built on top of a clean (and much more recent) build of the Clausewitz engine.

EU4, on the other hand, has bugs from EU3 in it - because it was literally built on top of EU3.

Y'know how the start date selector bugs out if you ever click the backwards arrows? That's an EU3 bug.

I know. Still, it would be fun and would give a better image of the game. I have some friends were genuinely annoyed by this and thought poorly of the game developpers because of that. It is one of the most complex game on the market, thought.

And I realize I'm completely off topic. Sorry for that.
 

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Albania isn't even hard to play... It is easy to get the Ottomans to not attack you and you can get Serbian, Venetian and eventually Hungarian or Ottoman lands with some easy alliances. They're like Byzantium lite.