It is very very hard to get Military Access by Dilplomacy

[Nelson007]

It is very very hard to get Military Access by diplomacy

so hard to get Military Access from other nation in FtG!!!!

even +200 relation and royal marriage and allianced

 

[unmerged(137345)]

Was the same in Eu2, the AI is very stubborn with it.

 

[Prinz Wilhelm]

I get it with 115 relations and no royal marriage sometimes.

 

[unmerged(18239)]

I get it with 115 relations and no royal marriage sometimes.

I did also succeed a couple of times at +140. And I was surprised as well to get Navarra into an alliance with only +45.

 

[Emperor_krk]

I too noticed that the AI doesn't give military access too easily, it's far harder even with good relations than in EU2. However I find it a nice feature - it was irritating to see most minors give access to basically everyone. Moreover, it makes sense historically - no country was happy to let another one's troops on its territory.

 

[Prinz Wilhelm]

Speaking about military access, why shouldn't I be able to offer the English (for example) to be able to walk through my country? You shouldn't have to ask in order to get military access, they (as in the country offering MA) might just want to give it to you.

 

[szmik]

so hard to get Military Access from other nation in FtG!!!!

even +200 relation and royal marriage and allianced

Being together at war seems to help.

 

[luk3Z]

Forced MA + decrease relations will be welcome as new feature in future patch imho

 

[Nelson007]

I too noticed that the AI doesn't give military access too easily, it's far harder even with good relations than in EU2. However I find it a nice feature - it was irritating to see most minors give access to basically everyone. Moreover, it makes sense historically - no country was happy to let another one's troops on its territory.

large country should be easy to get military access form tiny country in my opinion,it is common thing in history,isn't it?:rofl::rofl:

 

[Fibur]

True, it's more difficult than in EUIII, but also more logical: MA would be a major infringment on State sovereignty at that time (and even today), so it's no wonder it's hard to obtain during peace time.

 

[Flooper X]

I was pissed off at this, until I realized my navy actually mattered now!
It makes sense, original EU2 (and even more so EU3) could just as well have gone the way of CK and automatically give military access, because it was so easy to get anyway.
Now, forcing Military access through war is actually worth it (in some cases at least)

 

[unmerged(18239)]

Now, forcing Military access through war is actually worth it (in some cases at least)

Didn't think of it actually but that is a very nice addition.

 

[Kanaric]

True, it's more difficult than in EUIII, but also more logical: MA would be a major infringment on State sovereignty at that time (and even today), so it's no wonder it's hard to obtain during peace time.

IRL countries had no problems giving MA to nations going on the crusade.

 

[Emperor_krk]

IRL countries had no problems giving MA to nations going on the crusade.

Give me a crusade in FTG's timeframe . The last major crusade was the one that ended under Nikopolis in 1396.

 

[Nelson007]

wish a change in next patch 1.1

 

[unmerged(174860)]

problem is its very plastic (cant think of word, begins with A) game notion that should be replaced

armies didn't do this, especially in the big wars against France or the emperor

you think gustav adolf asked permission to march thru germany???

seems a good opportunity to replace it with a better system imo...

 

[unmerged(83121)]

I would think of this issue mostly as of a matter of gameplay, than as of the matter of realism. IMO granting of MA should not be automatic or 100% controllable by a player, else the feature loses its charm and power of balancing the diplomacy in game (considering that it's money free).

 

[aenariel]

It was far more common to give countries naval access in those times IMO. The two things should be separated. Normally I only ask for MA to be able to use their ports anyway.