Issues with Great Families, when a civil war breaks out

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Herennius

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1.4.2

I think their are several issues with how the Great Family system handles the outbreak of a civil war.

Those pics are from one month after the civil war started (1st one shows my Great Families, 2nd those of the revolting part of Trapezous):

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1. Especially the Great Family the revolt leader came from (here the Tauriskids) is thinned out greatly - that much, that you are technically no longer able to fulfil its job demand. This is also not solved by time and auto-adopting (I have attached another screenshot at the end of the post - from original playthrough of that civ war, where you can see that even after nearly two years that problem persists)

2. In any other Great Family, there is a different problem - the game doesn't not remove the characters which have revolted and it also counts offices for the job counter they hold for the rebellious goverment (in my example see the Nearchids: 3 jobs are displayed, but only the 3rd character (a governor) and the 5th (nearly completely hidden by the tooltip) as researcher are working for me, while the Admiral the tooltip shows is clearly a rebellious character (the fleet list tells that I don't command his nauticon)

3. And if you have a look on the great family screen of the rebels, you will see that they have only one great family, despite many characters of the other 3 familes having joined them as well. I don't think it is a good idea to just make them minor characters - as it both creates children without a family name and might later (when the family situation gets sorted out again) that those minor characters stay minor with the e.g. the last name "Nikoklid" but don't actually become part of "new/old Great Nikoklid family" again.


To reproduce with the attached save(s):

Let the game run until November 1st, then then civil wars breaks out. Investigate the issues pointed out above. Eventually let the game run for another month, if you think the game Needs amonth to sort out thinks (which doesn't happen). You might also load the 2nd save (warning - different playthrough of that civil war, so some details may vary), where the war has went on for nearly two years, but the issue described persist.
 

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I'll add to this problem. I have a fully functioning Seleukid Empire 300 years into the game. 2 sons of the Frataraka family are in Bactria but somehow they are still considered valid members of the Frataraka family in MY kingdom. Problem is, I can't assign them jobs and now the 8/9 employed members of the Frataraka family want to start a Civil War because they feel under-represented.