Greetings and salutations, before I start, I'd like to apologize for disturbance since this is not a post that explains the technical part of bugs inside the game. This mail is about the historical accuracy of Crusader Kings III, mainly about the Balkan area, to be precise counties located in Croatia and Bosnia. Before I start, I'd like to thank you for creating a wonderful game, I've played second part briefly, and it seemed like I'd have more luck with nuclear physics than with it. But the third instalment of CK is wonderous. I've played it in my mate's dorm, and alas, he hasn't been able to kick me from his dorm ever since I started playing the game.
The first issue that I'm going to address is the name of a specific county in what is today Bosnia and Herzegovina, and that is Vrhbosna, wrongly spelt as Vhrbosna. Vrhbosna means the peak of Bosnia in Slavic tongue, mainly Croatian, Serbian or Bosnian and it persists in that name when it comes to naming Archbishop (Bishop of Vrhbosna). It is regarded as eponym in these lands, mainly by Bosnian Catholics. Later on, during the Ottoman conquest of Bosnia during 1463, Sarajevo will be built near the aforementioned bishopric. Further reading can be found on Wikipedia, Vrhbosna title (Although I would rather recommend books written by Nada Klaić, Vjekoslav Klaić, and maybe Esad Kurtović, or maybe that would be a bit too extreme).
The second issue is County issue, Gacka county in Croatia seems to be too large for its own good, along with completely devoured Krbava and it made Brinje bishopric when Brinje was in Krbava county. Further reading and perfect look at counties of Croatia can be found on wikipedia under the title Counties of Croatia. (As usual, for further reading I'd say to take collected works of Croatian historians in Nova Zraka u Europskom svjetlu).
The third issue regards ruler title in Croatia, it's listed as Ban and that is not correct. During the first start in 867 AD, Ban Domagoj sits on Croatian throne and he's everything but not ban. At that time, Ban is a title used by courtiers who were in charge of one territory and provided reports, like castellans. Even on some documents like Gospel of Cividale mentioned rulership titles as Knez / Doux. Later on, it will evolve into powerful magistrate title and even rulership title which we witness at first in Charter of Petar Krešimir IV., where ban Pribina was listed as one of the greatest bans. And he was the one who deposed king (debatable title, Tomislav might be the first king as stated in papal correspondence during 920s, but it is not verified, we prefer using Knez title) Miroslav, and brought Mihajlo Krešimir II to power. That tells us how the title Ban changed. During the late 9th century, the title for rulers is Knez, a title that is equivalent to Duke. So you might fix their titles to be more accurate. There is a list of titles for Duke's court in Croatia, but that is mostly flavour text like tepčija and so on.
The last issue regards the unit naming issue, in the Croatian Kingdom (in my game it was Despotate of Croatia because Byzantium conquered it), Light cavalry units are named Konni, which is actually a polish word for horse (I've checked, a greek relative of mine sits on the throne and he's not from any Polish lands). It could mean Konji as in Croatian horses, but not a single unit has been called like that in ages before. The usable term would be Konjica which means cavalry, Laka konjica for Light cavalry and Teš(sh)ka konjica for heavy cavalry or armoured horseman. While Serbs, who share more or less same language roots as Croats have their units detailed in English. I will be audacious here and say that you could do wonders with units and unit naming in this game because there are so many specifics to each area and so much diversity that you can add in the game. For one example, instead of using standard royal guards for the Byzantine Empire, you can use Scholae for those who start at 867 and Varangians for those who start at 1066. Maybe even add the scripted event with Byzantium at 988 regarding that.
My thanks to Charles for providing me with screenshots after banishing me from his dorm.
In any case, once again I apologize for disturbance and the length of this ticket, it's just something, an idea that you can shape and mould by your own accord.
Thank you!
Gordan "Ascania".
The first issue that I'm going to address is the name of a specific county in what is today Bosnia and Herzegovina, and that is Vrhbosna, wrongly spelt as Vhrbosna. Vrhbosna means the peak of Bosnia in Slavic tongue, mainly Croatian, Serbian or Bosnian and it persists in that name when it comes to naming Archbishop (Bishop of Vrhbosna). It is regarded as eponym in these lands, mainly by Bosnian Catholics. Later on, during the Ottoman conquest of Bosnia during 1463, Sarajevo will be built near the aforementioned bishopric. Further reading can be found on Wikipedia, Vrhbosna title (Although I would rather recommend books written by Nada Klaić, Vjekoslav Klaić, and maybe Esad Kurtović, or maybe that would be a bit too extreme).
The second issue is County issue, Gacka county in Croatia seems to be too large for its own good, along with completely devoured Krbava and it made Brinje bishopric when Brinje was in Krbava county. Further reading and perfect look at counties of Croatia can be found on wikipedia under the title Counties of Croatia. (As usual, for further reading I'd say to take collected works of Croatian historians in Nova Zraka u Europskom svjetlu).
The third issue regards ruler title in Croatia, it's listed as Ban and that is not correct. During the first start in 867 AD, Ban Domagoj sits on Croatian throne and he's everything but not ban. At that time, Ban is a title used by courtiers who were in charge of one territory and provided reports, like castellans. Even on some documents like Gospel of Cividale mentioned rulership titles as Knez / Doux. Later on, it will evolve into powerful magistrate title and even rulership title which we witness at first in Charter of Petar Krešimir IV., where ban Pribina was listed as one of the greatest bans. And he was the one who deposed king (debatable title, Tomislav might be the first king as stated in papal correspondence during 920s, but it is not verified, we prefer using Knez title) Miroslav, and brought Mihajlo Krešimir II to power. That tells us how the title Ban changed. During the late 9th century, the title for rulers is Knez, a title that is equivalent to Duke. So you might fix their titles to be more accurate. There is a list of titles for Duke's court in Croatia, but that is mostly flavour text like tepčija and so on.
The last issue regards the unit naming issue, in the Croatian Kingdom (in my game it was Despotate of Croatia because Byzantium conquered it), Light cavalry units are named Konni, which is actually a polish word for horse (I've checked, a greek relative of mine sits on the throne and he's not from any Polish lands). It could mean Konji as in Croatian horses, but not a single unit has been called like that in ages before. The usable term would be Konjica which means cavalry, Laka konjica for Light cavalry and Teš(sh)ka konjica for heavy cavalry or armoured horseman. While Serbs, who share more or less same language roots as Croats have their units detailed in English. I will be audacious here and say that you could do wonders with units and unit naming in this game because there are so many specifics to each area and so much diversity that you can add in the game. For one example, instead of using standard royal guards for the Byzantine Empire, you can use Scholae for those who start at 867 and Varangians for those who start at 1066. Maybe even add the scripted event with Byzantium at 988 regarding that.
My thanks to Charles for providing me with screenshots after banishing me from his dorm.
In any case, once again I apologize for disturbance and the length of this ticket, it's just something, an idea that you can shape and mould by your own accord.
Thank you!
Gordan "Ascania".
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