Issue Thread (World War Wednesday)

[mdw1985]

I thought i'd open a new thread concerning the issues of HOI4 in the light of the world war wednesday videos. What issues did you discover?

 

[nAssailant]

Generally it's good practice, when you open a new thread, to at least start the conversation with your thoughts on the topic.

That having been said, the build they are using in the videos is a late alpha build, and is likely going to have some issues/bugs that they haven't worked out yet. If you're talking about gameplay decisions, however, I can't say that I've been caught off-guard or have seen anything that I thought was an outright terrible design decision.

 

[mdw1985]

Generally it's good practice, when you open a new thread, to at least start the conversation with your thoughts on the topic.

That having been said, the build they are using in the videos is a late alpha build, and is likely going to have some issues/bugs that they haven't worked out yet. If you're talking about gameplay decisions, however, I can't say that I've been caught off-guard or have seen anything that I thought was an outright terrible design decision.

You got a point!

For me the AI was pretty strange and i am tending to say, that this isn't a bug. I saw this in every video...

The game seems to be also a bit laggy from what i've seen today, which can be seen very well, as finland starts bombing the ussr for example

There was also no single moment, where the showed the supply topic in depth, which keeps me worried a bit.

I am not sure, if the air force interface is too complicated

And the doctrine research seemed to be too fast in my opinion...

 

[Damiani]

I was confused why Germany declared war on Poland... and then nothing happened for months. What was that about?

 

[Joebobpants]

The only thing I can think of that might of caused the strange acting AI we observed today is if they had gone back to a previous build, in order to build up a German version of the game that they talked about during the stream.

 

[mdw1985]

The only thing I can think of that might of caused the strange acting AI we observed today is if they had gone back to a previous build, in order to build up a German version of the game that they talked about during the stream.

Hmmm...can't imagine that, since the AI behaved also strange, when they had the other build...

 

[Axe99]

I think it's important we don't overreact here. We've asked for more information on an unfinished game, but in asking that, there's a responsibility for us to understand that the game is unfinished, and the AI likely to be the least finished part (it makes a lot more sense to polish the AI after all the features are in the game, and features aren't traditionally locked down until the beta has been accepted, which at the very least wasn't the case this time last week). Personally, I thought the game looked in very good shape for a game at this stage in development.

Another thing to keep in mind, for people that play other types of games and are used to seeing polished 'vertical slices' early-ish in the development stage (think games like Uncharted, or a racing game), it's not the kind of thing that's as easy to do (particularly in a live let's play, where Jakob changes tack based on comments in the Twitch stream) for a grand strategy game, so we're almost never going to get that kind of treatment. We need to think more as players to play these games, but we also need to think a little more as fans to understand what's going on through the development cycle.

 

[Septawn]

The AI thing is probably a bug with their latest version. The AI was clearly working (how well I don't know) in the previous streams.

 

[wingo]

I agree with Axe, if you read some behind the scenes interviews AAA devs usually make special builds just for presentations, which:
1. Is much easier to do in an fps/rpg/etc. than grand strategy
2. Would mean development time spent for something other than the game for final release
3. Lead to several really bad cases of presenting something much better than the final product (Aliens Colonial Marines etc.)

Not sure if anyone here wants that

 

[spacemarine658]

speaking of world war wensday where is it?

 

[spacemarine658]

never mind found it,its just not up on youtube yet