Islands defecting?

[Armfeldt]

I did not know islands were supposed to defect. In my latest game (agceep) I saw malta defecting to the Knights! I am NOT talking about some kind of event here, just a plain defection. At least, I did not see any evidence of an event firing. It was like this: The Ottos held malta. Rebels captured it => province defected to the Knights. Ironically, that triggered the event for the Knights to give up rhodes, so basically they just switched islands with each other...

 

[Van Engel]

Malta always defects to the Knights, but most other islands stay rebel controlled for ever, or set up their own governments, like Krete.

 

[Rythin]

Or Gotland...

 

[unmerged(1047)]

Islands can defect ONLY if they are a core province of the country they're defecting to. Normal land provinces can defect to a country they are a core of OR one they share a border with (though this is often the same).

 

[Stingray]

Islands can defect ONLY if they are a core province of the country they're defecting to. Normal land provinces can defect to a country they are a core of OR one they share a border with (though this is often the same).

Accually I think the same rules apply to islands as well, just that they never border anyone

 

[Underhand]

so basically they just switched islands with each other...

Musical Islands!

 

[AndrewT]

I did not know islands were supposed to defect.

What made you think they were not?

 

[unmerged(7784)]

I've have yet to see an island defect?

 

[AndrewT]

I've have yet to see an island defect?

I just saw one do so? Last night? Malta to the Knights?

 

[maekh]

I believe rhodos defected to me when malta defected the knights. Otherwise I don't know how i got rhodos as Ottoman

 

[Van Engel]

I just saw one do so? Last night? Malta to the Knights?

Now you really do sound Australian. :rofl:

 

[Underhand]

It's very easy to miss provinces defecting to your country. Playing as the Ottomans, the only province left in Asia Minor not owned by me was Teke's capital. I had vassalised them in the process of stripping them of their provinces, in the hope that someone would annex them to save me the trouble. Step forward the Knights. The province rebelled and joined me, but I didn't notice for some years. "'Ey oop," I thought, "It's mine now. When did that happen?"

 

[unmerged(9146)]

I believe rhodos defected to me when malta defected the knights. Otherwise I don't know how i got rhodos as Ottoman

Unless you're playing a modified game, it can't happen. The only country Rhodos can defect to are the Knights.

 

[unmerged(25696)]

In my latest game (agceep) I saw malta defecting to the Knights!

Islands can defect ONLY if they are a core province of the country they're defecting to. Normal land provinces can defect to a country they are a core of OR one they share a border with (though this is often the same).

In AGCEEP, Malta is not a core of the Knights, and they can gain a core on it only if they own it (if they move their capital and secede Rhodos to the Ottoman Empire).

What matter is what the revolt.txt file says, IMNSHO.

 

[Armfeldt]

What made you think they were not?

The fact that they don't have any neighboring provinces.

 

[AndrewT]

The fact that they don't have any neighboring provinces.

Well hopefully you are now aware that being a core province also allows defection.

 

[unmerged(1047)]

I meant the provinces listed in revolt.txt of course; those are usually the same as core provinces. Perhaps not, in the case of the Knights, or perhaps it's less common in AGCEEP (I honestly wouldn't know), but usually cores and revolt.txt provinces are the same, because revolt.txt is where revolter countries get their cores from.

 

[maekh]

Unless you're playing a modified game, it can't happen. The only country Rhodos can defect to are the Knights.

AGCEEP ofc

 

[unmerged(25696)]

I meant the provinces listed in revolt.txt of course; those are usually the same as core provinces. Perhaps not, in the case of the Knights, or perhaps it's less common in AGCEEP (I honestly wouldn't know), but usually cores and revolt.txt provinces are the same, because revolt.txt is where revolter countries get their cores from.

The only province listed in revolt.txt for the Knights is Malta, so the only way for them to get a core on Malta is either to revolt from someone else, but then they'll have Malta as their only province, or through the historical events (and this entails seceding Rhodes to the Ottoman Empire).