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I read in the HOI2 interview that HOI1 had 150.000 copies sold. And we know that EU2 sold more than that.

And Vicky? You know, it's not a very easy game to play. Is it selling well?

The point is: how many more Victorias I have to buy to make the Paradox guys announce "Victoria 2: 1825-1933"? ;)
 

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Developers will never tell because if it doesn't sell well and they say so, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Nobody will buy the game no matter how good it is becaue they think that it is a bad game.
 

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I think the name had something to do with it. Victoria i can see some people not even take a look at it with that name but that was not the only reason it did not sell well. :(
 

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I think it has been stated that Vicky was not a great sales success. But as for raw numbers, who knows? Maybe you can find a financial report from one of the publishers, this sort of thing is probably public information if you dig deep enough.
 

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e80e80 said:
I think the name had something to do with it. Victoria i can see some people not even take a look at it with that name but that was not the only reason it did not sell well.

Of course not, is the name was one of the main reasons to buy a game alot of sucessfull ones would not sell well...

And paradox can only say if they choose to the amount of copies sold at the E-Butik, since it is the publisher who knows how many copies it sold to the stores, but Strategy First probably has already informed them.
 

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If you judge by the activity on the forums, it almost seems that Victoria has a greater following than HoI. Of course, this may not be a very reliable measure.
I guess most people have bought HoI a long time ago now, and has gotten past the most common newbie questions.
I'm sitting with my new Vicky right now :) (late adopter), so I think I will visit this forum more often now...

BTW what's with the age label on the box??? "3+"
:rofl:
 

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It's pretty self-evident that Victoria is selling terribly... you don't have to look far in this forum to find a dozen different "where can I get Victoria" posts. The reason for such posts isn't the high demand for the game, but rather its unavailability. In most countries, it seems, the game simply does not have a distributor. And, needless to say, when a game cannot be bought, it cannot be sold :p.
 

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Well, wait a minute. Let's be clear that Victoria can be ordered directly from Paradox. More people should buy this game because it is flat-out wonderful.
There's an unbiased statement from out in the gaming crowd! :p
 

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I remember Johan saying that Vicky sold terribly. HOI was their top seller which is why they are making a HOI 2. Personally I thought HOI was the weakest of all their games so far.
 

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Razgovory said:
I remember Johan saying that Vicky sold terribly. HOI was their top seller which is why they are making a HOI 2. Personally I thought HOI was the weakest of all their games so far.
HOI was not terrifically strong when it first came out, but it has become something special by means of patches and mods. It's really quite a good game now.
Of course, it still doesn't stack up to poor unloved Vicky! ;)
BTW, I have trouble believing that Johan ever admitted to Vicky's sales having been "terrible." I vaguely remember them being "disappointing." After HOI, anything would look disappointing, wouldn't it?
 
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When I tried to buy Victoria here in a major German city, I couldn't find it in any place here. They didn't know the game, they couldn't even order it.
If a game sold itself, the shops would have it. Victoria got bad ratings from games magazines and quickly disappeared from the stores. I bought my copy from Amazon, then. Sad, but true, I'm afraid there'll be no Victoria 2 or anything similar. WW2 always sells, that's what they'll promote. Shame on brutal capitalism!
 

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When I tried to buy Victoria here in a major German city, I couldn't find it in any place here. They didn't know the game, they couldn't even order it.
If a game sold itself, the shops would have it. Victoria got bad ratings from games magazines and quickly disappeared from the stores. I bought my copy from Amazon, then. Sad, but true, I'm afraid there'll be no Victoria 2 or anything similar. WW2 always sells, that's what they'll promote. Shame on brutal capitalism!
You prefer Communism, or Fascism?
 

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Dad: "Ok, Johnny, let's see if we can find a game we'll both want to play."

Little Johnny: "Oooo, look Dad, Hearts of Iron. Word War II. You can build planes and tanks and stuff and blow things up and stuff. And you can be Nazi Germany....kewl. And kill Commies....kewl."

Dad: (Glances briefly at HoI box, then discovers the Vicki box) "What's this? Victoria? Great, a game about the Victorian era."

Little Johnny: "The Whoean era?"

Dad: "Well, you can re-fight the Crimean War, for example"

Little Johnny: "The Whatean war?"

Dad: (Growing more excited) "And look at this! One of the ways to win is to industrialize faster and better than anyone else!"

Little Johnny looks at his father for a moment as if certain he has lost his mind and returns to his inspection of the HoI box. "Great, Dad," he mumbles.

Dad: (desperately) And look. You can build a factory to take your cotton and turn it into linen and then build another factory to take the linen and make it into ordinary clothes and then...."

Little Johnny: "Ew.....economics. Micromanagement! Gross me OUT! Ewwwwwwww." (He begins to make choking and vomiting noises.)

Dad grabs the HoI box in disgust, puts Vicky back on the shelf and drags little Johnny (still making rude noises) to the cashier.

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'Nuff said. :rofl: