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Recently I was looking around the forums and I saw an interesting thread that had been closed by one of the moderators on the grounds of necromancy. (I don't want to be more specific here because I am not lodging a specific complaint. If I were, I would have simply PM'ed this moderator.) On the face of it, the decision was completely unimpeachable. The thread had lain dormant for several weeks, and so the decision to post a new reply to it certainly did qualify as necromancy. End of discussion.

But this got me to thinking -- what exactly is the harm with necromancy? I completely understand and agree with objections to thread necromancy on the grounds of spamming, for example. If someone goes around simply posting a reply to every old thread in a forum, not only does that mess up the prioritization of threads that people are actually interested in and push those threads down the list, it also confuses a reader's sense of the current status of a game. This is related to a second issue with thread necromancy, namely that it can raise issues that are no longer current. Imagine resurrecting a thread from CKII, for example, from 6 or 7 (!) dlc's ago. What value does such a thread bring to where the game is now?

All this granted, yet I do not see here a compelling argument against resurrecting any and all threads. For example, what about the case of a thread that featured an active discussion of a topic that has fallen dormant for a month or so and now someone wants to take up again? Yes of course one can start a new thread and post a link to the old thread. But really is that preferable to re-opening the original thread, in which case a reader can more easily refer to the context of the discussion without crossing back and forth between two different threads?

This prompts me to offer a suggestion: might moderators be given license to exercise some discretion when they detect a case of necromancy, closing it down when the discussion cannot serve any useful conceivable purpose but allowing it to go forward where the discussion still has currency? Perhaps the mod could post something in "modcolors" to the effect that the thread has been called back from the dead and people posting in it should be made aware of that fact.
 
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I'm fine with users posting in old threads if they contribute to the original topic. Sometimes users have an issue, search the forum and find a thread with the exact same issue and if that happens to be several weeks or months old yet is pertinent to their problem I see no harm in making a post there.

Moderators have free reigns when it comes to deciding if a thread should be locked or not and I trust them to use their good judgement :).
 

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Hey Krieg :) haven't seen you in a while, hope all is well.

As a follow up to what Tiny said, one of the main things I look at is: "context is king", sometimes a thread over a year old is the place to be, whereas on any game in development threads from before an update, probably should not be resurrected as they will probably be out of date with information in them.

As an aside I know some subforums have rules specifically limited how old a thread can be for resurrection, that have been put in place for managing there specific needs.
 

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All is indeed well. I've been dormant most of the fall because of preoccupation with my employment, if you can fathom such a poor excuse.
But I am looking forward to digging into HOI4 afresh. (I really love the new nf trees of the dominions, although I am a little disappointed that they didn't lavish the same attention on the UK itself. But human resources are finite, after all. . . .)

Meanwhile on the issue of necromancy: you are surely correct that subsequent patches/dlc/whatever make the vast majority of older threads irrelevant and distracting when resurrected. But I guess what I would like to see TinyWiking do is rewrite or clarify the necromancy rule in the posted forum rules so that forum members (and moderators) have a clearer sense of why it can be ok to resurrect a thread in some cases and not do so in others.

You guys should remember too that often a reader of a resurrected thread doesn't know that it has been brought back to life. This is especially so if you jump directly from one thread to another within a single forum. Do that long enough, and you can find yourself deep in the distant past without knowing it. Indeed in the particular thread that prompted my raising this issue here I was in the process of compiling a reply to the thread when I discovered it had been closed.
 
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Like with everything, if you ever think a moderator erred, please PM.
 
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I will do so, but I still want to urge that the rule to be clarified. What TinyWiking wrote above is not common knowledge, as far as I know.
 
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I will do so, but I still want to urge that the rule to be clarified. What TinyWiking wrote above is not common knowledge, as far as I know.
It might also depend on where the thread is...

In a game forum, it might be easily okay, at least within the timeframe of a patch.
 
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