Is this possible? (A way to upgrade ship systems)

[pimparel]

First of all, I really need to express that I MISS the HoI feature of upgrade ship systems, so... thinking about it, I had an idea that coulb be already discussed previoulsy but I will put it foward:

To make ship specific brigades, like: AA, ASW, Blockade Runner (BR), Float Planes (FP), Torpedo (TP) and Generic (GN).

As there is already the CAG brigade, I assume that we could attach them to other ships. They would be VERY cheap to produce (the idea would be that every ship should have it, respecting the availability dates, as the AA and ASW would come only later in the war, so in 36 we could only have the TP, FP and GN as example.

They should have 2 or 3 upgrades, and those upgrade should be VERY expensive and at least 30 days long... meaning that you could produce with say 1 IC per 10 days, and upgrade with 5 IC per 30 days. Which would make only possible to MAJORS to actually upgrade them (remembering that they must be in port to upgrade).

The ship brigades should be attached with artillery, naval or doctrines techs, or with specific tech...

And they would be something like this:

AA =
Air Attack = 1 / 2 / 4
Air Defense = 2 / 4 / 5
Air Detect = 2 / 4 / 6
Supply = 0.02 / 04 / 06

BR =
Speed = 2
Visibility = -5
Supply = 0.5

ASW =
Sub Detect = 2 / 4 / 5
Sub Attack = 1 / 2 / 4
Supply = 0.02 / 04 / 06

FP =
Sea Detect = 2 / 4
Sub Detect = 1 / 2
Visibility = 5 / 5

TP = (This should be Japanese only...)
Sea Attack = 2

GEN =
Sea Attack = 1 / 2 / 4
Sea Defense = 1 / 2 / 2
Shore = 1 / 1 / 2
Fire Distance = +10 / +20 / +50
Supply = 0.5 / 75 / 1.0

This should be rebalanced, as they are only an example. But also would represent the ability to make ships with specific roles as the CLAA or DE and would reduce the number of ship models and the headache that those generate... (at least to me!). And would accurately represent the POSSIBILITY to upgrade the ships with new AA guns or radar, etc...

Thanks for any input and sorry for my poor english.

 

[unmerged(11633)]

You can't add any more brigades. Only Paradox can.

It is possible to upgrade ships and units by tech, by adding in commands that add air defence, hard soft attack etc.

The funny problem is that for some reason HOI 2 only applies these values to currently existing units, or units that get upgraded. Not to newly built units. However, some people have solved the problem and found that a check is made when a country gets annexed that updates all units to the new values.

Thus, some mods like HIP have Tibet annexed and released every month to get the upgrades to be checked.

 

[pimparel]

You can't add any more brigades. Only Paradox can.

But you can make new model available! As I've seen mods with eng-2.

So you could use the existing models with a gap between them, to prevent upgrading.

As example:

eng 1 = ENG
eng 3-4 = ship AA
eng 6-8 = ship ASW
etc...

The only problem would be the brigade icon.

 

[Tuna-Fish]

But you can make new model available! As I've seen mods with eng-2.

So you could use the existing models with a gap between them, to prevent upgrading.

As example:

eng 1 = ENG
eng 3-4 = ship AA
eng 6-8 = ship ASW
etc...

The only problem would be the brigade icon.

No, the problem is that in your example you could attach eng-1 into every ships, which would kinda suck.

Instead, what you can do is take some unused brigade (I mean, who uses armored car(t)s or rocket artillery anyway), and turn it into a ship brigade. As for the different types, I'd rather make it just one brigade that gives radar/aa/asw, requires you to research AA guns and radar. Gains would be something like a little extra firing range, much better spotting and some extra AA power. Perhaps, if you're pushing it, make 2 different brigades, one for big ships and one for CL/DD, with torpedoes also in the CL/DD tech.

 

[JRShield]

It wouldn't it in CORE aswell, why would an individual ship have an other ship in it's atatchment? Or flying boats?

 

[pimparel]

It wouldn't it in CORE aswell, why would an individual ship have an other ship in it's atatchment? Or flying boats?

It wouldn't be another ship. But something like Ship Systems. It would mean that that ship had an AA focus or an ASW focus as example. And the flying boats was just an idea tossed around...

 

[XavierSS]

Definetely ''no-no' in CORE.