Is this normal???

[Wobegong]

Hi folks,

Ex HOI II addict, out of the games for a long time, found out that HOI IV was out for Linux so figured I'd dip my toes back in.

Playing my 3rd game now, as Australia, because the first two went....a bit odd. And now so has the third. The picture below should be rather self explanatory.


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50-odd divisions, ALL defending Nagasaki?? Is there some legitimate reason I'm missing that the AI would do this? I switched over to Japan from observer mode to take this screenshot and the AI has a plan, I can't see it....

 

[Celdur]

- Observer mode fudges the AI, its been acknowledged by paradox, you are better of "playing" Uruguay, its what they do to test the AI.

- AI is broken and they are going to improve it a lot in 1.4 patch.

 

[BeauNiddle]

If you can try tag switching to Japan, it's possible those forces are reserved for a naval invasion somewhere and the AI doesn't detach them to defend their homeland.

If you register your game version you get access to the bug forums - if you post your save file with an explanation it will help Paradox fix the issue.

 

[Wobegong]

- Observer mode fudges the AI, its been acknowledged by paradox, you are better of "playing" Uruguay, its what they do to test the AI.

- AI is broken and they are going to improve it a lot in 1.4 patch.

what, seriously??? its like, a year old, WTF?

Is this why literally every single time I attack with the drawn battle plans, it never does anything like the attack I tell it to (ie is it the same AI) ? Drawing those plans is a total pain in the butt and then they just spaz out and wander around randomly, doing stupid stuff like attacking 5 divisions with one. Even the 'spearhead' attack just expands in a big blob and stops half way to the objective i drew...

I re-loaded the game as japan to try and see what the AI is doing and its crazy - like 100 little armies of 2 divisons with plans like spaghetti everywhere. I tried to set up a realistic defense but when I re-load as Australia, the AI has sent all my divsions to africa!!!! and japan just sticks everything back in nagasaki and sits there.

I'm sick of this, I dont want to spend my time finding bugs, thats paradox's job!!! its a really expensive game, how is it this broken ???

 

[grandad1982]

Whilst I get that in some places this is an expensive game in the uk I paid under £40 with the Greenmangaming discount, or to put it another way it was really cheap for me, especially for the hours to £ ratio (around 10p per hour!).

I do agree that battle plans leave something to desire though.

 

[Wobegong]

Yeah in Australia we always get smashed, this was I think the most I've ever spent on a single game.

So what I'm getting here its its not an individual bug only affecting me - this is what the game plays like??

 

[Aodhan_]

Whilst I get that in some places this is an expensive game in the uk I paid under £40 with the Greenmangaming discount, or to put it another way it was really cheap for me, especially for the hours to £ ratio (around 10p per hour!).

I do agree that battle plans leave something to desire though.

Yep it sure is pretty good value for money, i'll have to sit down and work out my money per hour ratio but can say it should be good. I bought from Steam though so paid more than you Grandad will be checking out Greenmangaming next time hear good things about them.

 

[Wobegong]

$100 ++ for xyz hours isn't good value when its hours of frustration and disappointment.

 

[grandad1982]

Yeah in Australia we always get smashed, this was I think the most I've ever spent on a single game.

So what I'm getting here its its not an individual bug only affecting me - this is what the game plays like??

Yeah I've heard about the stupid high AUS prices of stuff. That sucks.

 

[Aodhan_]

$100 ++ for xyz hours isn't good value when its hours of frustration and disappointment.

If I felt that way about a game I would stop playing, a game is meant to be fun and recreational. Why do something that causes you frustration and disappointment when you don't have too, that's what beats me.

 

[Wobegong]

Because I spent a buttload on it, I liked HOI2, and I didnt know if it was a one-off bug and fixable, or a systemic problem.

Seems like the latter so yeah, refund time.

 

[Celdur]

what, seriously??? its like, a year old, WTF?

Is this why literally every single time I attack with the drawn battle plans, it never does anything like the attack I tell it to (ie is it the same AI) ? Drawing those plans is a total pain in the butt and then they just spaz out and wander around randomly, doing stupid stuff like attacking 5 divisions with one. Even the 'spearhead' attack just expands in a big blob and stops half way to the objective i drew...

I re-loaded the game as japan to try and see what the AI is doing and its crazy - like 100 little armies of 2 divisons with plans like spaghetti everywhere. I tried to set up a realistic defense but when I re-load as Australia, the AI has sent all my divsions to africa!!!! and japan just sticks everything back in nagasaki and sits there.

I'm sick of this, I dont want to spend my time finding bugs, thats paradox's job!!! its a really expensive game, how is it this broken ???

Yes.

But don't worry, the whole community is on it, it will get fixed.

 

[Celdur]

Yeah in Australia we always get smashed, this was I think the most I've ever spent on a single game.

So what I'm getting here its its not an individual bug only affecting me - this is what the game plays like??

Don't understand how a digital product can be so expensive, does AUS have crazy high taxes for videogames?

 

[diablopl4]

The fact he hasnt linked his game i doubt he actually bought it especially it defiently doesnt cost that much in australia. (and yeah i did just checked the price $70) and i bet you could get it cheaper too

 

[drake546]

Yeah in Australia we always get smashed, this was I think the most I've ever spent on a single game.

So what I'm getting here its its not an individual bug only affecting me - this is what the game plays like??

The ai is not always that stupid. It's reasonable competent at most basic land warfare. For example, play as China against Japan and they do ok. It just never does anything clever.

 

[Wobegong]

The fact he hasnt linked his game i doubt he actually bought it especially it defiently doesnt cost that much in australia. (and yeah i did just checked the price $70) and i bet you could get it cheaper too

No, I bought it - $90 USD for the feild marshal addition.

Howd you get it for $70?? was that with DLC??'

I havent "linked" it because i dont know and i dont care, i literally just want to install and have some fun. didnt have an account here until things started going wrong

 

[Wobegong]

The ai is not always that stupid. It's reasonable competent at most basic land warfare. For example, play as China against Japan and they do ok. It just never does anything clever.

i played one game as Poland and half way through my retreat germany just stopped and withdrew almost all of their army to invdade france. I counter invaded and was in berlin while they were all running in circles in france.

its ridiculous

 

[diablopl4]

I just found fields marshal edittion for $75 on g2a market

 

[diablopl4]

what difficulty level you play on ?

 

[DuroSVK]

what difficulty level you play on ?

Difficulty doesnt change the way how AI thinks, it just gives it unreasonable bonuses which doesnt help it to be at least decent anyway...