Is this change reasonable for every war on the earth?

[新人工作人员]

In AoW,when attacking an one-province sunni horde on Siberia,who brought the sunni faith defender BRUNEI into this tiny war,I just have to wait 5 years for a distant unexplored country to admit my victory?that's quite unreasonable.It cost me plenty of time.:wacko::wacko::wacko:

 

[Castrolol]

Fully agree. At the very least make it so the DoF can't be called into conflicts where it hasn't discovered the participants.

 

[Lord Finnish]

I don't like it either. For the most part it's just a waste of time.

Perhaps an OPM shouldn't give up as soon as its capital falls and it has allies, but the allies themselves hang on way too long and seemingly the only way to build warscore against them is to occupy their land which can be a major PITA at times.

 

[LordDamien]

" Hey We have been called into a defense of our faith war, But we have no idea who these people are "
" March the armies "

That must be the conversation that happens. Since it really makes no sense that someone that has not discovered you can join a war ?. How do they know who they are fighting ?. It would make more sense that they could not join unless they knew who you were.

 

[lordelenath]

I like the change in general, but I think the best solution would be to just not have annexation cost 100% WS per se. It would still keep us from doing stuff like declare -> assault -> annex (because you wouldn't have the required warscore after siegeing one province in 99,9% of the cases) but it would prevent silly "Hey, they have an ally on the other side of the world. Wait five years or pick exploration!".

 

[oblio-]

" Hey We have been called into a defense of our faith war, But we have no idea who these people are "
" March the armies "

That must be the conversation that happens. Since it really makes no sense that someone that has not discovered you can join a war ?. How do they know who they are fighting ?. It would make more sense that they could not join unless they knew who you were.

Well, to be honest, they allies could very well tell them about you and... gasp... even tell them where to come! The game models this somewhat by allowing you to go into Terra Incognita if the provinces belong to an enemy.

 

[ErikHeinrichs]

Well, to be honest, they allies could very well tell them about you and... gasp... even tell them where to come! The game models this somewhat by allowing you to go into Terra Incognita if the provinces belong to an enemy.

But they don't. It's like "i'm not saying aliens did it, but it was the aliens".

 

[新人工作人员]

But the attacker may give up,in this same game lithuania had tried over 4 times to annex an one-province crimea,but with ottoman allied everytime,he survived.

 

[atwix]

Fully agree. At the very least make it so the DoF can't be called into conflicts where it hasn't discovered the participants.

hasn't it always been like this? And also, doesn't Brunei region start with all Siberian land explored from start?

 

[grommile]

In AoW,when attacking an one-province sunni horde on Siberia,who brought the sunni faith defender BRUNEI into this tiny war,I just have to wait 5 years for a distant unexplored country to admit my victory?that's quite unreasonable.It cost me plenty of time.:wacko::wacko::wacko:

Having on occasion spent more than five years in previous versions waiting for an inaccessible replacement warleader (and I'm not just talking about the DotF here; I ran into several cases of "I need military access through someone who hates me with the fury of a thousand frozen suns") to admit my victory in a war with a territorial wargoal (= can't peace out the original victim), I think the new system is a considerable improvement.