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I am the duchees of Ferrara, but I can't press my dejure claim:
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A very educated (i.e. wild) guess, but... realm peace enforced, maybe?

I'm not sure the AI uses it, though, so I might be totally misguided.

P.S.: I've already seen that beautiful map once but forgot the name of the mod - could you please point me to the right link to it? Thanks!
 

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Its the Theatrum Orbis Terrarum mod! You can find it on the steam workshop!
There is no realm peace enforced
Ah, ok, then I'm currently at a loss...

Thank you a lot for the info!
 

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Maybe you are not allowed to use this type of claim on the Pope?

This is my guess because;

Code:
FROM = {
            OR = {
                holy_order = no
                NOT = { religion = ROOT }
                NOT = { has_dlc = "Sons of Abraham" }
                OR = {
                    AND = {
                        primary_title = { title = d_knights_templar }
                        ROOT = {
                            has_character_modifier = expelled_d_knights_templar
                        }
                    }
...More similar  ands for various holy orders below this....
This is from dejure claim cbs. The way I read it is
to use it the target has to be either, a different religion from you, you don't have Sons of Abraham, or they can Not be a holy order unless you have expelled that holy order.

My guess is that the Papacy is may be consider as a holy order for this case?
 
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If it's the last county he has, and you are in the same realm, then you can't use a de jure claim on it. It's a very recent change
 
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If it's the last county he has, and you are in the same realm, then you can't use a de jure claim on it. It's a very recent change
Does this apply to the Pope in particular only, or to everyone?

I assume its just him, because if it was his last then you would have to subjugate him instead of take his county and i'm fussing only Emperor tier can have pope as subject?
 

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It applies to everyone. If you and the Pope have the same suzerain, then you could not use a de jure claim on, let's say, Rome if you have the duchy of Latium and it's his only county.
 
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Does this apply to the Pope in particular only, or to everyone?

I assume its just him, because if it was his last then you would have to subjugate him instead of take his county and i'm fussing only Emperor tier can have pope as subject?

Well it doesn't look like he's actually the Pope. He has the Count border, so he's probably just an Antipope.