Is there any usefulness from Ecumenical Patriarch as your vassal if you are playing not as orthodox

[Unready]

If you playing Muslim ruler Ecumenical Patriarch might become your vassal after conquest of Constantinople.
Of course I strip all his holdings at no time but next he listed as my vassal and do (and can do) nothing without land, money and troops.
If some usefulness from him for being my vassal or I should grant him independence, as I usually do?

 

[makaramus]

maybe he will excomunicate orthodox since you are his overlord and in war with them?
also... what worst he can do

 

[majdavlk]

you get money and prestige from him. in return there is a chance he joins a plot inside your realm

 

[Endless Rain]

I have a similar question. Do non-Christians get anything from vassalizing the Pope? I vassalized the Pope as Charlemagne, then converted to Sunni the day after, and I was wondering if it does anything. I'm hoping it will allow me to avoid crusades.

 

[Naughtius Maximus]

I have a similar question. Do non-Christians get anything from vassalizing the Pope? I vassalized the Pope as Charlemagne, then converted to Sunni the day after, and I was wondering if it does anything. I'm hoping it will allow me to avoid crusades.

Vassal religious heads never declare Crusades on their liege.

 

[Unready]

maybe he will excomunicate orthodox since you are his overlord and in war with them?
also... what worst he can do

He can't.
Orthodoxy has autocephaly so being my vassal he is head of religion of only my orthodox vassals which I have none.
All other rulers has own heads as I see by clicking on them.

 

[Patriarch of Bub]

Just a prestige bonus i guess, since he's considered a king tier vassal.

 

[WJS]

Yeah, you can make him Court Jester.

 

[makaramus]

Yeah, you can make him Court Jester.

Cruel and annoyed minorities

 

[Geglash]

I don`t know whether it is still a thing, but I noticed that when the patriarch joins a war against your tyranny, you can get 50% warscore just from ocupying bishopric of Constantinople. Sort of like an oldfashioned red target to finish off final boss.
Also him being a king tier, you can get relatively big ransom for him.

 

[Bipole]

Counts as a vassal king which is a decent bit of monthly prestige.

 

[majdavlk]

Do non-Christians get anything from vassalizing the Pope?

yes, just like with any other vassal, you get money from him and generate extra prestige, also there will be higher chance that he join plots / intrigue in your realm

 

[InsaneGreyjoy]

I would rephrase the question: Is there any usefulness from Ecumenical Patriarch as your vassal even if you're orthodox. Because from my games of Ck2 he always seems a little bit blend and useless. Maybe something has change since my last game. But still not sure

 

[jonjowett]

I would rephrase the question: Is there any usefulness from Ecumenical Patriarch as your vassal even if you're orthodox.

Easier excommunication of your unlanded courtiers, in case you want to duel them or imprison/banish them for their money. I think that's about it.

 

[gtact420]

I have a similar question. Do non-Christians get anything from vassalizing the Pope? I vassalized the Pope as Charlemagne, then converted to Sunni the day after, and I was wondering if it does anything. I'm hoping it will allow me to avoid crusades.

Having the Pope as a vassal can be OP depending on Catholic bishoprics left, he still gets all the cash from bishoprics preferring the Pope over their ruler and you get a cut.