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or you can play russia from 1836 and keep the czar :p !
 

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The latest start date is the 1914 scenario.
 

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A more historical Russian Civil War can be found in my 'War of the Nations' mod. It has no 1919 scenario (yet), but you can just run the game till 1917 and then save and reload as one of the Russian factions, but there are no events for a white victory. You just have to conquer it all.
 

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So in summation there is no representation of the Russian Civil War in the unmodded game? Are the Russian Revolutions of February and October 1917 included?
 

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The Jawa said:
So in summation there is no representation of the Russian Civil War in the unmodded game? Are the Russian Revolutions of February and October 1917 included?
The best I can give you is an ardent 'maybe'. If I recall, no events for either revolutions are available in any scenario besides the 1914 one, and I hear on occasion that that one is bugged. Still, I'd give it a shot if you really want to fight the war - it'd be a fun war to fight, too.
 

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The Jawa said:
So in summation there is no representation of the Russian Civil War in the unmodded game? Are the Russian Revolutions of February and October 1917 included?

Only in the 1914 scenario, and dependent on how badly Russia is doing in the actual war itself. If Russia is winning the war handily the revolution will not happen.
 

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If I wanted to play out the Russian Civil War would it be best advised to start as Germany and whoop the Russians to trigger the Revolutions and then switch to the White or Soviet factions?
 

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The Jawa said:
If I wanted to play out the Russian Civil War would it be best advised to start as Germany and whoop the Russians to trigger the Revolutions and then switch to the White or Soviet factions?


There are not two factions in the game for Russia. the Bolsheviks are installed into power by event if game conditions warrant it, and then if they can hold onto power vs rebel armies, Russia will become the USSR by event.

But the civil war itself is not modelled in vanilla the way the US Civil War is with two separate sides. I do think there is an interwar mod that does this however, and VIP will likely take a similar apporach once the mod reaches that point in development.
 

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Thanks for the info! I look forward to VIP's arrival at such a late date in the game timeline!
 

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On a note related to the Russian Civil War, does the game or any mods model the attempt by Finland, Poland, Ukraine, The Transcaucasian Republic (and subsequently Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan), the Mountaineers Republic, Alash Orda, or the Kokand Republic to break away from Russia during this time? The fact that Poland and Finland succeeded begs the question: could others have also succeeded given the right conditions (i.e. the British stay in Baku longer and actually prevent the Red Army from taking Azerbaijan)?