is there a way out of a PU with a powerfull country?

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Tryvenyal

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France is strong like hell. My Spain is strong. but nothing like France. I maximice my army and fleet and still can not come over 30% liberty Desire so I can get help... any tips?
 

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I can't control my opinion of them, the only thing I know can break the union on succession....

Ok. Unless France AI screew up big time, this is a game killer for me. Someting totally out of my control(Having an heir) is ruining the game totally. Thank you PDX. Back to CK for me.
 
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Also, for future games be aware that you can't fall under a PU while at war, so if you are in danger of it, declare on some nobody in the New World and keep the war going until you pop an heir.
 

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Humm,
What about tanking your stability and legitimacy to have a civil war going on? Get some pretenders enforce demands and the union will end.

Are you saying if I get my Legitimicy up, there will be a pretender revolt? How can I make them win, except not fighting them?

Can I use the estates? What if I give nobles 100% influence and trigger that "disaster"?
 

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Are you saying if I get my Legitimicy up, there will be a pretender revolt? How can I make them win, except not fighting them?

Can I use the estates? What if I give nobles 100% influence and trigger that "disaster"?
You'll want it down, not up. However, I can't think of easy ways to decrease legitimacy. The lower your legitimacy, the greater the weight for pretenders, when you're a lesser PU member.

I think that you only get noble rebels, not pretenders, from the noble disaster.

How far down the reforms are you? I know that it's drastic, but if you can change government type, you might be able to get out of the PU (can somebody confirm this?).
 

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They forgot to ask if you have Conquest of Paradise. You don't have the option to ask for a "Support Independence" without it.
 

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Can then support me if I´m under 50% Liberty Desire?
Yes, you should be able to ask nations to support your independence no matter your liberty desire, if I remember correctly.

They forgot to ask if you have Conquest of Paradise. You don't have the option to ask for a "Support Independence" without it.

I mostly assume people have the DLC, but you’re right, I should have clarified it.
 

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They forgot to ask if you have Conquest of Paradise. You don't have the option to ask for a "Support Independence" without it.
I mostly assume people have the DLC, but you’re right, I should have clarified it.

Actually, I don't have it but I had the option! It might come with another one that I actually have(Probably El Dorado - as I just saw the ability to support a junior after buying it on the Christmas sale.)

With Russia and Prussia - the 2 rivals of France - supporting my independence, France were no match for me(Us!)! Thank you all for saving my campaign :) And No, the Liberty Desire did not matter.
 

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Just note for a player the liberty desire doesn't mean very much when the player is under PU. It only limits when you can declare war. Below 50 you/your overlord needs to be at peace to be able to declare war. If it's over 50 you can even declare war when you/your overlord is at war. You'll be ejected out of that war.