Is there a release date, for a hearts of iron 4 release date?...

[shafii777]

I have no Problem with a release delay of 1-3 months is/are okay.. but a delay of two years.. that is really unusual.. I mean don´t they have something like a time plan or something similar.. A lot of bigger game developer Studios have lists where they plan when and what they have to do, so they can finish the game before the release date.

 

[Victor Cortez]

I have no Problem with a release delay of 1-3 months is/are okay.. but a delay of two years.. that is really unusual.. I mean don´t they have something like a time plan or something similar.. A lot of bigger game developer Studios have lists where they plan when and what they have to do, so they can finish the game before the release date.

Everybody have plans, some can afford to throw them out of the window.

 

[NERFGEN]

yeh, it's about time we got something more than a vague deadline which is postponed and then postponed some more.

 

[Scutatus]

I have no Problem with a release delay of 1-3 months is/are okay.. but a delay of two years.. that is really unusual.. I mean don´t they have something like a time plan or something similar.. A lot of bigger game developer Studios have lists where they plan when and what they have to do, so they can finish the game before the release date.

And a lot of those studios release their products on time, no matter what, not caring if the product is actually fit for release or not. Only for that product to inevitably be bugged, unfinished, or just plain broken. Sega - and the Total War franchise in particular - have suffered badly with this. It has become the trend with far too many companies to release games on time but unfinished - regardless of what state the games are in - and then just patch them once released. But the result of this is an alienated customer base and a game that is bugridden or incomplete or not very playable, or all of the above, for many many months after release. I myself have been burned with such games as the Aliens games and especially Rome Total War II. Rome Total War II was released a full year too early and needed that extra year of year of work after release before it was even close to an acceptable state!

For that matter, although it is easily forgotten now, Paradox itself did not do that great a job with the release of HOI3. That too needed a lot of post-release work.

So don't knock the delays too much. Even two years of delays. If you demand on-time release, you may regret what you wish for.

Naturally the delays only work if the problems are fixed. If HOI4 is delayed by two years, but is still released with problems - yeah, that's going to be an issue.

 

[jalapen0]

Wasn't HOI3 delayed and it was still a pile for several more patches? I remember it had a constant, worldwide hurricane at sea, making naval battles impossible. I've barely been able to play that game, even now, with all the micro. HOI2 was far superior in my opinion. I'll be happy with the delay if it's at least as good as HOI2.

 

[Number 7]

Wasn't HOI3 delayed and it was still a pile for several more patches? I remember it had a constant, worldwide hurricane at sea, making naval battles impossible. I've barely been able to play that game, even now, with all the micro. HOI2 was far superior in my opinion. I'll be happy with the delay if it's at least as good as HOI2.

the hurricane sounds pretty funny. Yeah my only problem with HOI3 is what i call the tedious micro. Like, to add artillery to my starting brigades i have to build 20-30 brigade attachments, move them where stacks of infantry are (and if you are playing japan, all overseas forces eitehr need to be brought home, or artillery sent overseas) and manually merge 1 by 1. its painful. HOI4 you can do the same thing with a bit of land combat experience and a few clicks.

i also add air management to that, having to constantly give your airforce babysitting all the time. 4 once again sounds super superior in just "how fun the system sounds to play". Navies too, i've managed to win decisive battles by ping ponging the enemy fleet 10 or 20 times until its eventually all sunk but it doesn't exactly feel very epic.

i loved hoi3 that being said, i'm just REALLY pumped for HOI4 and this all makes the release delays extra painful

 

[shafii777]

And a lot of those studios release their products on time, no matter what, not caring if the product is actually fit for release or not. Only for that product to inevitably be bugged, unfinished, or just plain broken. Sega - and the Total War franchise in particular - have suffered badly with this. It has become the trend with far too many companies to release games on time but unfinished - regardless of what state the games are in - and then just patch them once released. But the result of this is an alienated customer base and a game that is bugridden or incomplete or not very playable, or all of the above, for many many months after release. I myself have been burned with such games as the Aliens games and especially Rome Total War II. Rome Total War II was released a full year too early and needed that extra year of year of work after release before it was even close to an acceptable state!

For that matter, although it is easily forgotten now, Paradox itself did not do that great a job with the release of HOI3. That too needed a lot of post-release work.

So don't knock the delays too much. Even two years of delays. If you demand on-time release, you may regret what you wish for.

Naturally the delays only work if the problems are fixed. If HOI4 is delayed by two years, but is still released with problems - yeah, that's going to be an issue.

Haha, total war atilla is a 10-15 gb game! How can you compare such a detailed game with even playable battles with this? (HoI$(4))

 

[Scutatus]

Haha, total war atilla is a 10-15 gb game! How can you compare such a detailed game with even playable battles with this? (HoI$(4))

I was discussing the trend of gaming companies to release games before completion. Total War was just example. There are many more I could have named. HOI3, if you look more closely, was another example I gave - and that's as relevant as it gets.