I started a game as a count nobody in Pechenegs liege was subjugated by Cumania, then my new liege subjugated Khiva and then a small civil war, then bam Tengri Faith reforms 888..... this is... ugh... rage quit right then...
Is there a record for fastest ai reformed religion? cause Tengri reformation in 888
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The reason: Paradox didn't put the Holy Sites in better places. Only 3 should be in the immediate reach, and 2 should be far.
Some possible actual Holy Sites:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengrism#Holy_mountains_and_lakes
EDIT: While the 5th Romuva holy Site is, for example very far away, all the Holy Sites of the Tengri and Norse faith can be easily gained, the Norse need to bypass three counties to get to Braunschweig and the Tengri get the 4th and 5th Holy Site within only several years.
Some possible actual Holy Sites:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengrism#Holy_mountains_and_lakes
EDIT: While the 5th Romuva holy Site is, for example very far away, all the Holy Sites of the Tengri and Norse faith can be easily gained, the Norse need to bypass three counties to get to Braunschweig and the Tengri get the 4th and 5th Holy Site within only several years.
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I think PDS should read this. Simple but most likely the best resolution.
Yup. Musala was once Mount Tengri, and it's far enough from the reach of the Magyars (although I think it's a part of the county of Serdica/Sofia, so it's under Tengri Bulgarians).
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?716282-Improving-non-Norse-and-non-Mongol-pagans
First post, my replacement for Tribal Invasion (except for Horde titles (Seljuks, Ilkhanate, GH, Aztec Empire, etc.))
great idea, prepared invasions turn off at 40 realm holdings, maybe have an option like the magyars to "drop the east" to be able to invade richer western lands. but you should be able to invade then drop the lands of the kingdom you once had... hmm... maybe this can be modded in like the Hungarian invasion to have tribes moving westward.... Hungarians move west drop the east and the pechenegs do something similiar.... but how to make it so the ai has the tribes pushing westward from the far east...? maybe allow count level vassals of different cultures(say the pechenegs are subdued by the cumans) have the option of re-setting up the tribal kingdom of pechenegs and invade the west so you can free yourself from the Cumans... the last problem would be culture shifting... maybe all altaic cultures can shift quickly within the altaic group meaning a pecheneg invasion into Wallachia will convert the Avars and Cumania into Khazaria/Pechenegs will convert them to Cuman.... this may all work...
haha sorry, I have no faith that Paradox will do that
I went straight to cybr to see if he could put it on his to do list for VIET. I love Paradox and all but they don't care enough about little things like Turkic peoples pushing eastward and the Tengri's not reforming.
That's not little. I know Paradox is better than most devs, but it sometimes seems as if they leave stuff unfinished.
I mean, the West African Pagan Homeland still doesn't work by default.
Tengrism often reforms itself in my games. I would be okay if it occasionally happened, but it's too often.
Tengri absolutely loves to reform, both in 867 and 1066 starts.
The funny thing? Reformed Tengri Mongols become Chinese tech if put through the converter. :wacko:
The funny thing? Reformed Tengri Mongols become Chinese tech if put through the converter. :wacko:
Tengri reformed super early for me as well in my last game. Holy sites for that religion seriously need to be changed.
Funny thing in my Italy>Italia>Byzantine>Roman Empire game is that even though it reformed, Tengri got wiped in any effective manner- the Ilkhanate showed up as Old Tengri, then got converted to Catholic.
The Golden Horde showed up as Reformed, but their head got assassinated by me, and I think they got their wars stolen out from under them because Ilkhanate civil wars ended. That's also the reason the Timurids ended up in Lithuania.
On topic... I don't mind Tengri Reformations, to be honest, it'd make the conversions to EU4 more interesting.
The Golden Horde showed up as Reformed, but their head got assassinated by me, and I think they got their wars stolen out from under them because Ilkhanate civil wars ended. That's also the reason the Timurids ended up in Lithuania.
On topic... I don't mind Tengri Reformations, to be honest, it'd make the conversions to EU4 more interesting.
Pagan reformations are so far from plausible to happen 20 years after game start. at least aztecs get 400 years... there was NO tengri religious infrastructure in 867, shit it took christianity centuries to build up it's own infrastructure and hierarchy.
Yeah, but Christianity didn't have ultra-super-mega doomstacks of death.
In my Norse game, Tengri reformed in the late 800- early 900 (did not mark when). But I think It was the second ofr third king of Hungary who did it without a sweat...
And from then on refused to marry his family members to mine.
And from then on refused to marry his family members to mine.