As the title says, is there a list of all the new civics Utopia is bringing to the table?
I'd love to theory craft about my new Utopian Empire.
I'd love to theory craft about my new Utopian Empire.
Is there a list of all the new civics?
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Here you go!
It's not all of them since we haven't seen what a few do yet but hopefully this is helpful to you and others.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.re...ic/list_of_15_banks_civics_subject_to_change/
It's not all of them since we haven't seen what a few do yet but hopefully this is helpful to you and others.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.re...ic/list_of_15_banks_civics_subject_to_change/
You're welcome!
I'm still curious about Citizen Service as I plan on taking Warrior Culture and Citizen Service.
For a Hive Mind empire, I'm thinking of Ascetic and Divided Attention. Really wish I knew what they both did!
I like the idea of "Warrior Culture", but I think it should get a buff. Either more army strength or some kind of other benefit as well. Right now I only see it viable if people want to "roleplay".
I'm very interested in seeing what "Imperial Cult" does.
Indeed.
Oh and I found this too: http://m.imgur.com/a/gqqf6
Actually has a lot of stuff that the list I posted earlier missed. So this is also very helpful!
Oh and I found this too: http://m.imgur.com/a/gqqf6
Actually has a lot of stuff that the list I posted earlier missed. So this is also very helpful!
Asked Wiz in one of recent diaries if all civics will be listed before release - no answer. Here goes my theorycraft on my 1.5 empire.
I wonder if some civics didn't get into screen yet. Even though judging by civics scroll this list seems to be complete.
Well I found this too: http://m.imgur.com/a/gqqf6
So far the only ones we have no idea on what they do are Imperial Cult, Citizen Service, and Meritocracy as well as the Hivemind Civics.
So hopefully we'll see those soon.
However, after taking a look at both the list and pics I realized something: there aren't a lot of civics to choose from. While all of them are useful (depending on your play style and individual opinion), I don't think it offers a lot of options to choose from.
But you can bet that in the future we'll receive new civics via updates and DLCs as well as mods once Banks and Utopia come out.
We're only seeing Civics eligible for their ethics selections. While they both have opposite ethics, we aren't seeing anything that requires spiritualist or materialist, and there might be some that require dictatorship or oligarchy we haven't seen yet.
Mineral Output +10% seems strictly better than consumer goods -10%, since not all your minerals are spent on consumer goods.
On the other hand, consumer good numbers can vary as well. Having environmentalists with Utopia living standards will be a fair bit easier than non-environmentalists with Utopia living standards.
It's an expected savings of anywhere up to 1/10 of a mineral per Pop per month (I'm not counting Chemical Bliss because I don't know why you'd ever use it). If your empire makes at least one mineral per Pop, you're right that it really makes no sense to choose.
You'd use chemical bliss for livestock. The food yields are flat, so they don't suffer the penalties.
Livestock get a -10,000% happiness penalty. That +30% happiness isn't going to take you far against that.
Where'd you pull that number from? Remember, the numbers are not final.
I got that livestock could use chemical bliss from the developer stream.
Think about it rationally. If your livestock are forced into chemical bliss, they won't be able to be upset because they'll be too drugged up to care.
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Okay looks like Meritocracy has been seen. It apparently gives +1 to Leader skill levels as well as those in the Leader Pool.
Apparently it's similar to the Talented Racial Trait which is a bit odd. Why create a Civic for something that already exists as a Racial Trait?
But then again the numbers aren't final.
Apparently it's similar to the Talented Racial Trait which is a bit odd. Why create a Civic for something that already exists as a Racial Trait?
But then again the numbers aren't final.
Indirect Democracy gave a leader skill level bonus. This civic will allow people to recreate its effects. I assume most of the current government bonuses will find their way in as civics.
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That doesn't seem very organic. Besides, I heard that chemical bliss meat might cause autism.
The only time I've seen Wiz use Chemical Bliss was on Battle Thralls, not on Livestock.
I pulled that number from the very first stream we saw livestock in. The happiness penalty of chattel slavery is -30%, and the happiness penalty of livestock is insurmountably high. Livestock will always be at 0% happiness no matter what you do.
Isn't it the case only for hivemind civics? Usual civics seem to be just grayed out if ethics don't match.
But their meat gets real soft from such happy lifestyle.