Is the Suggestions forum the best way for the Custodians to gauge player priorities?

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Liggi

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I'm really not sure that it is.

- Not that many people know that the Suggestions forum even exists
- People look through the recent and popular suggestions only, which gives Suggestions a short window to "take off" even if people like them a lot before they disappear
- Popular suggestions at the top may no longer be particular popular, but just happen to historically have had a lot of votes
- There's no real feedback or incentive to post a suggestion, because it just gets lost in a sea of others and people rarely see them for discussion due to the above reasons

I feel like the Custodians would be much more effective with shorter bursts of requesting players share their priorities / frustrations, and using that to generate up to date lists of what might be worth working on on an ongoing basis.
 
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I'm really not sure that it is.

- Not that many people know that the Suggestions forum even exists
- People look through the recent and popular suggestions only, which gives Suggestions a short window to "take off" even if people like them a lot before they disappear
- Popular suggestions at the top may no longer be particular popular, but just happen to historically have had a lot of votes
- There's no real feedback or incentive to post a suggestion, because it just gets lost in a sea of others and people rarely see them for discussion due to the above reasons

I feel like the Custodians would be much more effective with shorter bursts of requesting players share their priorities / frustrations, and using that to generate up to date lists of what might be worth working on on an ongoing basis.

I feel the same way, if I'm being honest. The Community Team recently (2 weeks ago? Really?) did the Lem presentation from the suggestions forum to the custodian team. This was during "pitch week", where the devs pitch ideas they'd like to work on, so the timing really was ideal. After Herbert releases, we'll grab the next top ones we haven't covered, and do it all again.

I think 5 out of the 8 suggestions that we made it through had people already proposing something related to them, or something we've already announced that we're working on. Hopefully, we can get the summary and flags for the threads done up in a few weeks, we've run into some technical issues that are blocking it for right now. Obviously, pitches are not approved and this all comes with a big #nopromises. But we are still keeping our commitment from DD#217. :D
 
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I feel like the Custodians would be much more effective with shorter bursts of requesting players share their priorities / frustrations
why? the forum is a standing invitation to share priorities/frustrations.
 

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After Herbert releases, we'll grab the next top ones we haven't covered, and do it all again.
Will you share any infos which ones are chosen (past selection of course) and how high the priority is? I think that would interest many of us with ideas posted in the suggestion area (me included :))
 

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Will you share any infos which ones are chosen (past selection of course) and how high the priority is? I think that would interest many of us with ideas posted in the suggestion area (me included :))

They'll likely be classified as one of three categories, to make it easier for people to find suggestions that haven't been presented yet. As for the priority, it's very much on each dev to champion their pet issue, and nobody is required to take one (unless there's something really good there, and the producer/game director get involved).
 
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I'm really not sure that it is.

- Not that many people know that the Suggestions forum even exists
- People look through the recent and popular suggestions only, which gives Suggestions a short window to "take off" even if people like them a lot before they disappear
- Popular suggestions at the top may no longer be particular popular, but just happen to historically have had a lot of votes
- There's no real feedback or incentive to post a suggestion, because it just gets lost in a sea of others and people rarely see them for discussion due to the above reasons

I feel like the Custodians would be much more effective with shorter bursts of requesting players share their priorities / frustrations, and using that to generate up to date lists of what might be worth working on on an ongoing basis.
If people like a suggestion but have nothing to add it quickly disappears, there is as likely to be discussion around ideas we don't like, which can leave an unpopular Idea in circulation longer, what's more we often have our own suggestions or Tweaks to the OPS idea, and it's not clear if I should write up a new thread about it or continue discussing my own ideas.

Do devs read the discussions in the threads? Or just the headline.


I apologize for posting another game's suggestion forum here but it's organization I think would really help for the suggestion forum here, ideas people like but don't comment on remain visible longer, a commenter can reply to the original Poster with his own idea and discuss it separately from the OP's thought. Sometimes in stellaris's form, especially when a thread becomes many pages, its not clear who is replying to who and its a disorganized jumble of ideas, hopefully Satisfactory's qa site will be good for ideas on improvements.
 

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I was thinking the heading ‘implemented’ could be replaced with ‘under consideration’ or something along those lines.

Suggestions does get a lot of traffic, so I’m not concerned so much about awareness, though there is a small learning curve. Like it is upvotes that boost it in popular, not number of replies.

Sometimes the replies are interesting though as a healthy discussion of what might and might not work, which doesn’t always correlate with upvotes.

I manage to occasionally scan the first few pages of new suggestions, but I do think a lot of ideas still slip away in deeper page counts. The problem in part is there is too many, even duplicate, suggestions or slight variations of above.

what if suggestion posts could be tagged? Ie filter by military, terraforming, economic rework, small quality enhancements, things like that? Might help.