Is the 'Governer Shuffle' the intended way to play?

[HFY]

Pre 3.8 had sector-wide governor traits, so there was no need to shuffle (or at least no need to shuffle that much), now we have useless planetary governor positions and sector governors essentially had been nerfed.

Oh there was some value in shuffling governors between sectors, particularly your first early conquest.

It's just that now it's even more rewarding and it's even more micro.

 

[Nerisande]

Did you do this pre-3.8, shuffling them between sectors?

No?

THEN DON'T

Do you remember the exploits with negative resource economy (when you can play with zero energy and -786 EC income and it feels okay) or market exploits (sell energy credits for energy credits to get infinite resources). Also there was a funny glitch, which allowed you to move the science ship into someone's capital (as well as any other system you can reach) during summoning the Eldritch Horror to get the system nuked into oblivion.

Why PDS even fixed all of this? Players can "jUsT noT uSe iT LmAo" and there will be no problem.

 

[Calvax]

Has anyone found the pioneer vet class useful? Unless im rushing XP, i've already got to the point where i'm industrialising economies by the time I have a "decent" rank 4 governor. And by then, if i'm attempting to stay near to the leader cap, i'm going to be dropping a governor on my forge/factory world, over a random bumpkin colony.

I've not but that might be down to the harsh leader cap and changes to how traits apply. In principle I like the idea of specialising at least one governor that way and they can move as I expand, but it's a struggle to even fill sectors at the moment let alone have a governor specialised for just new worlds.

Did you do this pre-3.8, shuffling them between sectors?

No?

THEN DON'T

I did occasionally but the need was less because traits applied sector wide. If I founded a new sector later in the game I would shuffle a governor with these traits to it so I could clear a sector's worth of blockers for cheap. It wasn't ideal then but it wasn't too much of a hassle.

 

[Thiend]

I would approve of either:
1. Planet traits are drastically better, like 3x the effect, but moving governors now incurs the same cooldown as does moving envoys.
2. Go back to sector effects, remove all planet effects.
Separately, with leader pools this small rolling no leaders without the tiny flat resource income traits is both common and excruciatingly painful if you're past about 2225 when they fall off hard. I here bring up a proposal of mine from some time ago: let us pay more unity to just choose a starting trait. Or, with the new leader system, make an agenda allowing replacement of traits.

 

[Pancakelord]

I would approve of either:
1. Planet traits are drastically better, like 3x the effect, but moving governors now incurs the same cooldown as does moving envoys.
2. Go back to sector effects, remove all planet effects.
Separately, with leader pools this small rolling no leaders without the tiny flat resource income traits is both common and excruciatingly painful if you're past about 2225 when they fall off hard. I here bring up a proposal of mine from some time ago: let us pay more unity to just choose a starting trait. Or, with the new leader system, make an agenda allowing replacement of traits.

Not sure how I feel about locking down governors (not opposed to it but it would need to be tested, such as with elections often buggering things up).
Edit: The game also has the concept of "effective levels" - only for councillors right now - but in theory this could be extended? so leaving a governor in one place long enough could give them effective levels (or increases trait effects, making a T1 trait act like its T2, if one exists), making them ultra effective on that planet, as they get used to their world. But moving them wipes out that bonus.

I am confused by them releasing the resource traits like this. Like, they dont even scale with leader level (there was a video with eladrin and aspec where they mentioned maybe adding larger tier 2+ upgrades) - or in the case of governors, scaling with something like the population or trade value of the colony, rank of the capital building or even just raw planet size (as a multiplier).

 

[Dr. B]

I have a sneaking suspicion that the only reason we don't have travel time for leaders, is that the AI would screw that up something terrible. A cunning human could easily exploit and crush unled AI fleets (and armies). It is a pity.

 

[Meneye]

Well I've never done it for architectural interest governors, as that seems like way too much micro, even if it does bring less mineral costs. It doesn't seem like that significant of a benefit anyways since it only concerns minerals, but nothing's stopping you from doing what you want.

 

[Franton]

I agree that traits which reduce a one-time cost are weird, and like the suggestion to break down one-time costs into monthly rates, However, doing that wouldn't solve the central issue that the players is forced to choose between two unfun alternatives. If neither is fun to do, then i'd rather not have to decide at all!