Yeah, I was a bit annoyed I lost my materialist ethos when I embraced the fanatic egalitarians (whom I did not realize were fanatic egalitarians). Ah well.
Is the Ethos based game system too restrictive?
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Yeah, I was a bit annoyed I lost my materialist ethos when I embraced the fanatic egalitarians (whom I did not realize were fanatic egalitarians). Ah well.
Another example of too restricting ethos is AI rights. Only materialists can give full AI rights but fanatic eligitarian can't. Instead they complain about enslaved pops.
If you don't like your Ethics anymore, change them.
They could make them a bit more restrictive, because you are no longer fixed into the 2-3 you picked at gamestart.
please refer to my recent posts on why you can't alway's "just change"
Yeah, people seriously need to read the thread...
Changing to autocracy requires an autocratic faction to adopt into government. Getting said faction requires someone to support autocracy. Getting that someone may require boosting attraction towards autocracy (although you might be able to conquer those pops). And boosting the ideology without a faction requires slaves. And getting slaves requires autocracy. Egg and chicken, chicken and egg.
Well, almost. You can also get slaves through xenophobic ideals too, but that requires a more complex maneuver through ethics.
I think there should be more ways for autocratic attraction to rise - history hasn't really proven democracies to be immune towards becoming autocracies but Stella democracies sure seem to be so.
Changing to autocracy requires an autocratic faction to adopt into government. Getting said faction requires someone to support autocracy. Getting that someone may require boosting attraction towards autocracy (although you might be able to conquer those pops). And boosting the ideology without a faction requires slaves. And getting slaves requires autocracy. Egg and chicken, chicken and egg.
Well, almost. You can also get slaves through xenophobic ideals too, but that requires a more complex maneuver through ethics.
I think there should be more ways for autocratic attraction to rise - history hasn't really proven democracies to be immune towards becoming autocracies but Stella democracies sure seem to be so.
Quick question, were you able to set your government authority to dictatorship? As that would increase your authoritarian attraction.
yea, for a very long time this was not even enough to gain 1% atraction towards Authoritarianism.
Only after i conquerd someone with the Authoritarian etho's a faction formed for them, bumbing the etho's atraction for it to...3%
hrm, that sucks. Yeah, I think they need to tweak some of the ethos attractions somewhat.
I'd be fine if they didn't lock every form of foreign policy regarding pops to Authoriraian/xenophobe and Egalitarian/Xenophile. It's like you must have one of those or you can't do shit
Yeah, it felt weird for me that authoritarians couldn't do full slavery. That felt like a really odd one to lock out...
Your issues is that you do not know the proper Ethics atraction modifiers. We just recently aquired that knowledge and wrote it on the wiki:
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Ethics_attraction#Authoritarian
However Authoritarian can be kind of hard to aquired and maintain. Individualsit is much more...invasive.
Nope, i was giving this link earlier (as stated in the post above me)
You should read the last page where you'l see i used that link to analize what my options where.
My only hope is finding a species with the repugnant trait
The system itself isn't too restrictive, but some of the restrictions made shouldn't be there (they are there mostly to try to make Ethics more unique, but I think there are better ways to do that).
Not a FE, aFE, Primitive or Crisis Empire. The normal player and AI empires are of country type "default".
These checks are all across the gamefiles to exclude FE, Primitives and the Crisis Empires from certain considerations.
Oh, thanks, glad you enjoyed) And don`t worry, I WILL play it, no matter what! Will make a personal mod, if needed. Might even write an AAR on that....PS the story of the empire that wants to give souls to machines is a truly romantic one, i hope a patch comes that enables it one day.
By the way, you are quite a storyteller yourself!
this one
was especially fun)