Is Mughals the strongest nation in the game ?

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EarlKonrad

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Probably quicker conquests. Better? I don't think so.

I dislike playing any horde. Who wants to own the world with 25% of it destroyed?

You should, for starters. Razing gives you the best MP generation in the game, ducats, make it easier to force spawn institutions and rebels weaker. Granted, you are losing dev but that isn't as bad as it sounds when you consider that wrong culture, wrong religion provinces aren't worth much to begin with. To say nothing of the GC you will save by razing.
 
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Actually now that both Prussia and Germany gets 5 admin efficiency from their missions, you can get a extra 15 percent, but Prussia gets not core cost reduction.
 

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You should, for starters. Razing gives you the best MP generation in the game, ducats, make it easier to force spawn institutions and rebels weaker. Granted, you are losing dev but that isn't as bad as it sounds when you consider that wrong culture, wrong religion provinces aren't worth much to begin with. To say nothing of the GC you will save by razing.
It is amazing how good razing is. With not getting any money (or, rather, paying yourself the money from your own coffers) in 1.30.3 and with mid to late game razing heavily nerfed by 1.30 it was still stupidly powerful.

I was pretty unhappy when I learned that forming Manchu turned you into a Monarchy even after the Mandate ceased to exist. I had assumed it functioned like Yuan and let you keep the horde government in that situation.
 
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It is amazing how good razing is. With not getting any money (or, rather, paying yourself the money from your own coffers) in 1.30.3 and with mid to late game razing heavily nerfed by 1.30 it was still stupidly powerful.

I was pretty unhappy when I learned that forming Manchu turned you into a Monarchy even after the Mandate ceased to exist. I had assumed it functioned like Yuan and let you keep the horde government in that situation.

Does a patch where razing doesn't because worse as time go by still exists? I remember reading that razing used to not get worse with but and that this was later patched. I want to see for myself how razing was broken when it was first implemented.

Oh, it doesn't work like Yuan? That is sad to hear.
 

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Does a patch where razing doesn't because worse as time go by still exists? I remember reading that razing used to not get worse with but and that this was later patched. I want to see for myself how razing was broken when it was first implemented.

Oh, it doesn't work like Yuan? That is sad to hear.

You definitely get less monarch points than you did prior to 1.30 late game. I didn’t even know the reduction was a mechanic prior to reading the 1.30 patch notes.

Based on patch notes pre-1.30 you capped the reduction at 20% with Mil Tech 8 and now it caps at 80% reduction at Mil Tech 23.
 

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You don't get any bonuses from assimilating cultures, you get them from assimilating culture groups. It's the Hindustani group which gives the CCR. Which is great, right up until a horde gets an event that colonises a province and gives it your culture, blocking you from the bonus and forcing you to conquer your way through Oirat to get it back.

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twice

(No, I'm not bitter.)
What event is this? Never heard of it
Probably In the top 3, but I prefer Oirat-Yuan--Mongol Empire now, as long as you kill the Mandate. With the TC changes money isn't an issue by 1500, you can raise all of China to buy tech and institutions, with Exploration you can easily own all of SE Asia and most of India before the Europeans show up, and have you seen Yuan ideas?
So with the change to trade companies only giving bonus goods to other provinces, can you just turn the centres of trade into trade company provinces with it boosting goods produced in the stated provinces next to them?

Obviously still best to move your trade capital to persia so you get all the trade, but should you move your capital?
 

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It is amazing how good razing is. With not getting any money (or, rather, paying yourself the money from your own coffers) in 1.30.3 and with mid to late game razing heavily nerfed by 1.30 it was still stupidly powerful.

I was pretty unhappy when I learned that forming Manchu turned you into a Monarchy even after the Mandate ceased to exist. I had assumed it functioned like Yuan and let you keep the horde government in that situation.
Wait are you sure? I thought it was forming Qing that auto settled you now, not manchu, or was this a 1.30 change?
 

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What event is this? Never heard of it
I'm uncertain, as I wasn't playing as the nation that got the event. All I can say is: I got the notification that I had no longer assimilated the Hindustani people, had gained the nationalism CB, and found a previously-uncolononised province of my primary culture belonging to Oirat (and, later, one of the siberian natives.)