wimplestiltskin

First Lieutenant
3 Badges
May 20, 2011
274
211
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • 500k Club
I've been reading alot of previews and developer interviews and such and have noticed that Kyros is being refered to interchangably as a man AND a woman at different times by different people (including developers!), so which is it? While I don't think it would make a vast amount of difference really, especially as I doubt we'll see much of Kyros beyond reference and perhaps a small appearance either in voice or person but, to the best of my knowledge, there haven't been many examples in crpgs in which, the all powerfull conqueror and supreme ruler has been a woman. Obvious examples in D&D not withstanding.

I do think it would be a nice variation for a change if Kyros is woman.
 
Last edited:

SuperBearNut

Lord of Procrastination
91 Badges
May 7, 2012
262
594
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Empire of Sin
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Knights of Pen and Paper +1 Edition
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal
  • Tyranny - Tales from the Tiers
  • Stellaris: Synthetic Dawn
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Stellaris - Path to Destruction bundle
  • Knights of Honor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • BATTLETECH
  • Steel Division: Normand 44 Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Shadowrun Returns
Kyros is both our Mother and Father!

According to the gameplay videos, no one knows what gender Kyros (Praise be his/hers name!) is apparently. I would not be surprised if it turned out that Kyros is some genderless entity and everybody is referring differently to shklim/shkler because of lack of gender neutral pronoun in English and so they pick the one they feel more fits
 
  • 1
Reactions:

wimplestiltskin

First Lieutenant
3 Badges
May 20, 2011
274
211
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • 500k Club
Thats an interesting idea. Ingame characters have made a point of bringing up Kyros unusually vast magical power. Could also be that very few actual ingame characters really have any idea who or what Kyros really is, being so distant in terms of place, both socially and geographically. Perhaps Obsidian hasn't even settled on the a choice yet! Hence the interchangeable use of him/her.
 

Penemue

Corporal
31 Badges
Jun 21, 2016
39
35
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Prison Architect
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife Pre-Order
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Age of Wonders III
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Stellaris
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
It would be cooler is it was a female in my opinion but I'm fine with "the genderless being" theory too. Looking forward to our interactions with Kyros in game!
 

wimplestiltskin

First Lieutenant
3 Badges
May 20, 2011
274
211
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • 500k Club
It would be cooler is it was a female in my opinion but I'm fine with "the genderless being" theory too. Looking forward to our interactions with Kyros in game!

Agreed.

@Earmuffs directly quoted the game, while @R.O.F.L referenced that same quote. :)

Now, I'm not going to say it's a direct reference to Babylon 5, but it's enough to make me wonder. :cool:

I haven't seen that quote, trying very hard not to spoil too much (It aint easy!) But it would be nice to think its a reference to B5, that show doesn't get enough love!
 

Strange_Trees

Sergeant
6 Badges
Oct 4, 2016
67
92
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Tyranny - Tales from the Tiers
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • Shadowrun Returns
There's an interesting little tidbit on Kyros in the lore page:

For a figure whose name is known to everyone, it is perhaps strange how little is truly known about Kyros. Those who are close to the Overlord say that direct knowledge is irrelevant -- whether one fears, serves, or reveres Kyros, in the end it is obedience that is the key to surviving in the Overlord’s world.

I'm thinking Kyros is purposefully obscured, to not seem like a person sitting on a throne somewhere, but an almost cosmic force of nature. From what we've seen, there doesn't even seem to be any statuary or other representations of the Overlord. Kyros is Power. Kyros is Law. Kyros is above all. That sort of thing ;)
 
  • 4
  • 1
Reactions:

wimplestiltskin

First Lieutenant
3 Badges
May 20, 2011
274
211
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • 500k Club
There's an interesting little tidbit on Kyros in the lore page:



I'm thinking Kyros is purposefully obscured, to not seem like a person sitting on a throne somewhere, but an almost cosmic force of nature. From what we've seen, there doesn't even seem to be any statuary or other representations of the Overlord. Kyros is Power. Kyros is Law. Kyros is above all. That sort of thing ;)
Would certainly be an effective layer of control and defense, can't fight what you don't know
 

evilcat

Lt. General
Jul 24, 2015
1.566
675
Moreover, is Kyros romanceable :)?
That is the spirit!

It would be nice to have Lady Kyros, since there was so many male evil emperors that it is no longer fun. But having evil queen in iron mask is fresh. She dont need to express her gender since undefetied legions march for the idea not a person. But if we ever meet in flesh it would be nice to have girly conqueror.
 
  • 3
  • 3
Reactions:

wimplestiltskin

First Lieutenant
3 Badges
May 20, 2011
274
211
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • 500k Club
That is the spirit!

It would be nice to have Lady Kyros, since there was so many male evil emperors that it is no longer fun. But having evil queen in iron mask is fresh. She dont need to express her gender since undefetied legions march for the idea not a person. But if we ever meet in flesh it would be nice to have girly conqueror.

I don't know about girly lol A strong, decisive powerful woman, who was also romanceable, would be awesome though ;)
 
  • 4
  • 1
Reactions:

Strange_Trees

Sergeant
6 Badges
Oct 4, 2016
67
92
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Tyranny - Tales from the Tiers
  • Tyranny - Bastards Wound
  • Shadowrun Returns
Every time I hear mention of romancing Kyros, all I can imagine is those really bad paranormal romance novels where the edgiest dark vampire lord who has never known love in thousands of years falls for some she-doesn't-know-how-beautiful-she-is 18-24 year old girl, because she's the specialist snowflake that ever was and ever will be. It's pretty much the same line of wish-fulfillment fantasy lol ;) I don't get the impression that Obsidian's writers are drawing a lot of inspiration from Twilight, though.
 
  • 2
Reactions: