Is kingdom de jure drift from empires broken or am I doing something wrong?

[Tederheid]

Hi, since the later patches you are supposed to de jure drift from an empire if you hold a complete kingdom independently, right? I've been holding Sicily for 200 years now and I've had the "drifted from empire" event twice now, but I'm still de jure part of the Byzantine empire, and the emperor still desires my kindgdom. WAD?

 

[MorlanV]

I've been having the same thing with my Irish kingdom, the game has been going successfully for about 480 years now and I managed to create the kingdom through good luck and chance in about 2 generations of my dynasty, and it still hasn't left the de jure Empire of Britannia.

 

[CoffeeWaffee]

You shouldn't drift from an empire if it relevant title isn't active, but if the title is active then you should drift.

 

[TheSupernatural]

What's de jure drift? I thought the de jure borders were traditional and couldn't be changed?

 

[dorukdorucu]

What's de jure drift? I thought the de jure borders were traditional and couldn't be changed?

They can, at least after certain patches are installed. They take 100 years to change though.

 

[TheSupernatural]

Do they ever change back? I think it would be kind of weird to set up a de jure empire when one or two of the kingdoms aren't even part of the empire anymore.

 

[dorukdorucu]

Do they ever change back? I think it would be kind of weird to set up a de jure empire when one or two of the kingdoms aren't even part of the empire anymore.

They can, and they use the same mechanics as drifting out when drifting back in. 100 years. Unless the drift isn't complete in which case they simply start counting back until they reach 0.

 

[Zhetone]

Is there any penalty to having several kingdom-level titles...? Especially if you keep your vassals at small levels of power.

 

[dorukdorucu]

Is there any penalty to having several kingdom-level titles...? Especially if you keep your vassals at small levels of power.

Not much, i hold Brittany, Wales, Scotland, England, Aquitaine, Ireland, Aragon, Castille, Galicia and Leon without any problems. I do use some minor mods though, so don't take my word seriously.

 

[Panzerschiffe]

Is there any penalty to having several kingdom-level titles...? Especially if you keep your vassals at small levels of power.

Only thing I've noticed is that titular titles won't have any impact like if you de jure drifted wales into england and created the titular title, no one will mind. With multiple kingdom titles, vassals are supposed to desire your non primary title but don't take my word for it. I'm not sure if this is really the case though.

 

[MorlanV]

Titular titles don't really get anything due to kingdoms with de jure titles get provinces that aren't part of kingdoms you don't hold.

 

[JonStryker]

It's broken in many, many ways:
- A kingdom that's founded won't drift anywhere. Even if it's held by / vassal to a foreign emperor.
- The "drifted out" event oftentimes has no actual effect
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