Is it worth to move towards Imperial Administration?

[MeanMini]

I have a problem: I have too many direct vassals. That's 24 dukes and viceroys. My cap at the moment is 19, and my ruler is at his last legs so that number will drop soon. I can find no easy way of getting rid of a bunch of them by creating a new kingdom and granting that to a viceroy.

I can't transfer any of the dukes to be vassals to others as they're all equal.

So seeing as I can find no way to remove them, I need to raise the limit. Might drop Centralization to medium, as it would solve the problem, but could also just abolish the council and move to Imperial Administration.

Doing that would release the big players in my realm who are currently being held in check by having them in the Council and let them run amok on factions. Is Imperial Administration worth that hassle?

Any other easy solutions you see?

 

[thevmag]

It's going to take a couple of generations for me to switch over too, so I feel your pain.

Best thing would probably be to combine vassals in the mean time: they're probably marrying into each other left and right, so a few centuries of play should see some of your ducal heirs being double heirs. Or even better, kill off a viceroy and give his title to someone else. No risk in having a megaviceroy who loves you if it all comes back to you in the end.

 

[Sergeant Flutter]

Yes! I recently reorganized into an Imperial system, it's glorious.

 

[SigurdStormhand]

Well, ultimately, yes.

Imperium Maius all the way.

On the other hand, is it worth it now?

You'll need retinues and cash for mercs to keep those vassals in line whilst you push toward IA. You'll need to keep all your vassals very happy (or at least enough of them) to prevent them joining factions, using your Chancellor and Spymaster, so they will need to be loyal.

 

[MeanMini]

Well, I'm one step away from adopting Imperial Administration now. Two questions:

1. As removing Council Power removed my ability to enforce Realm Peace, can I now never again change the inheritance laws in my realm? There are always at least some people fighting.

2. If I do adopt Imperial Administration, can I re-activate Council again after that without losing it? Or do I need to give up on Imperial Administration to have my Realm Peace button back?

 

[Silver Wizard]

Well, I'm one step away from adopting Imperial Administration now. Two questions:

1. As removing Council Power removed my ability to enforce Realm Peace, can I now never again change the inheritance laws in my realm? There are always at least some people fighting.

2. If I do adopt Imperial Administration, can I re-activate Council again after that without losing it? Or do I need to give up on Imperial Administration to have my Realm Peace button back?

You can just re-activate the council afterwards, no problemo. This give you your realm peace back.

 

[Sirrobert1]

Or you can just group them under a few kings.

 

[Silver Wizard]

Or you can just group them under a few kings.

I have a problem: I have too many direct vassals. That's 24 dukes and viceroys. My cap at the moment is 19, and my ruler is at his last legs so that number will drop soon. I can find no easy way of getting rid of a bunch of them by creating a new kingdom and granting that to a viceroy.

 

[DPS]

You haven't said if you're a king or an emperor, but if you're not an emperor, you can't adopt Imperial Administration anyway. So if you are an emperor, you can create kingdoms and group those dukes under a few kings.

The downside of that, of course, is that while you'll have fewer vassals, some individual vassals will be more powerful.

 

[thevmag]

The downside of that, of course, is that while you'll have fewer vassals, some individual vassals will be more powerful.

*The upside, you mean. Always nice to have one especially large uber-loyal vassal you can focus on to keep the others in line. Just one assassination if they get spymastered/favoured into a faction, and their replacement will love being viceroy'd all his titles

 

[Kumicho]

If you're Emperor, just go Primogeniture and give everything to your heir. Then make him a King and transfer half (or more) of your vassals to him. Poof, problem solved. And if he ends up as a maimed kinslayer, well, just more of a challenge (but the good kind).