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ZhangWuJi

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DarthMaur said:
Well, they don't get much of income, so income is distributed to other POPs, making them richer.

And slaves don't generate other costs, like education, crime fighting, social reforms, etc. Main disadvantage is slowed research and inability to convert them.
As far as I heard it only slows research if you have slaves of your accepted culture(s). Hense my problem of "secondary" cultures being converted. Like Anglo-Canadians for the UK and Nanfengren for China.
 

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jordarkelf said:
It should not be possible to convert any Europeans (and I include New World colonials here) to slavery: it was the "White Man's Burden" that legitimized slavery, so only the undeveloped nations should be able to provide slaves. This limits it to Africa and parts of Asia. New World Indians were of course also enslaved, but far less than Africans were.
I highly doubt any European nation would accept another nation having European slaves. White Slavery was a taboo even among slavers. Unless of course you are going to equate the labour contracts by which the English subjugated the Irish, or the Russian elite their subjects with slavery (which I would not do).
Maybe a civilized Japan would be able to have European slaves though.

I wrote in a badboy, emigration of minorities, cash, and consciousness penelties to try and balance the taking of slaves....including European. Again this is an ahistorical option that I guess could have happened. And if it makes it more justified to occur in Europe, you can think of the slaves as serfs. Good idea, might limit the event to non-democracies or democracies with wealth as their voting rights. As well as the existing need for non-full citizenship gov'ts. Opinions?

Using the cultural minority command does allow Japan for example to have European, Chinese, and any non-Japanese as slaves. The great thing about the command is that it allows the event to work for any country without having to write one for each country and identify each culture. Though this does make French Canadians slaves in Uk for example (im sure if the UK had slavery again at that time they wouldn't mind a few Frenchmen in chains :p ). But again the problem is that the secondary culture is also being enslaved.

Newest idea I got was to make a second event for UK and China (the 2 countries where this is the biggest problem) and release 100% of Anglo-Canadians and Nanfengren POPs. Of course it would be great if they weren't enslaved in the first place. And their jobs wouldnt be saved so I am not sure.

Edit: Would make the event for USA to release the Dixie but they have slavery=yes so they don't get this event.
 
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