Is it possible to get the free secert dlc?

[Meroveeus]

and none of this petty belittlement changes the fact that it isn't a smart business practice

It is their business - so they run their business how they feel it should be run.

I don't have a problem with that...

There is no entitlement

 

[Peter Wass]

and none of this petty belittlement changes the fact that it isn't a smart business practice

There is nothing petty when the subject is your misplaced sense of entitlement.

 

[Jos de trol]

It is their business - so they run their business how they feel it should be run.

I don't have a problem with that...

There is no entitlement

There is nothing petty when the subject is your misplaced sense of entitlement.

Nobody has claimed that Paradox is legally obliged to provide this content to anyone other than whom it pleases.

What people are complaining about is that a well intended marketing idea is creating negative blowback with paying customers who missed out due to the way it was executed. You can stand on your little fanboy soapbox and shout out all day that people should suck this up and get over it. You will accomplish nothing other than feeling smug about yourself because this will absolutely not change anyone's grievances. What you seemingly fail to realise is that threads like this are actually in Paradox's best interest, as there is a clear frustration here that Paradox is now informed about and is free to take into account or not in the future.

Basically if the argument is "screw you I do what I want" when people are offering honest and well intended criticism then that is never a particularly intelligent or relevant response. Contrary to fanboy beliefs people offering criticism do tend to realise the company is free to take into account their grievances or not, that is precisely why people are reporting their grievances.

 

[Meroveeus]

Constant whining about not getting a dlc is neither intelligent nor relevant. It feels like the little brats in a shop who are crying that they want an icecream - in some cases the mother gives in and the results can be seen here - in other cases it is accepted - and patience is learnt.

Paradox already respondend here - the whining continues... being about this or about the geolock for Germany...

 

[Gamengervi]

I can almost guarantee that the DLC will be available for a small fee in the not too distant future, just like they did with Europa Universalis IV (I think), so I don't really see any reason to blow this out of proportion. If you were here for the sign-up, awesome! You get it early and for free. If not, and you really want it, just wait a bit.

 

[ArcandSpark]

This will be pretty much my only game for the next two to three years since my time to game will be very limited. I want to get as much content as possible for it to make the experience as good as possible. I didn't sign up while the campaign was going on an I should have and i think that those who did sign up should get something special for following such a long time ago. However the general idea of the DLC should be made available to everyone for a fee.

An example (not a specific example but the general idea) would be paying for a forum avatar. If someone signed up and their secret avatar was Rommel then to make this fair for others is that for a fee others could use the Rommel avatar but the ones that signed up will have a gold star in the corner to signify that they recieved it through the special offer. This way everyone can get the special avatar but the ones that signed up are still slightly set apart and recognized for their efforts. It's the concept that I am putting forward which would work for everyone and not the specific example.

 

[Peter Wass]

change anyone's grievances.

You don't have a grievance, you have a sense of entitlement matched only by Jordan's tits in its extreme over-inflation.

 

[nox165]

Constant whining about not getting a dlc is neither intelligent nor relevant. It feels like the little brats in a shop who are crying that they want an icecream - in some cases the mother gives in and the results can be seen here - in other cases it is accepted - and patience is learnt.

Paradox already responded here - the whining continues... being about this or about the geolock for Germany...

True at least paradox dose at least listen. However, its just plain dumb to have campaigns like this because alot of times it will screw some of the audience that its trying to win over. I was interested in hearts of iron 4 for a long time. I would buy it as soon as it came out why would I bother to fellow the marketing campaigns to games I already know I am going to buy day 1? IMO limited time content dose nothing but hurt fans both present and future. Should someone who just finds out about a game be screwed from getting all the content when they didn't know about the game? I mean there are tons of games, should you need to know all of the games and all of there marketing campaigns I think not.

 

[nox165]

People who buy FM will get everything they've bought. It hasn't been marketed as comprehensive.

The DLC was pitched as an exclusive perk for signing up. Your overweening senses of entitlement notwithstanding, you didn't sign up.

God forbid people don't follow marketing campaigns

 

[Gamengervi]

True at least paradox dose at least listen. However, its just plain dumb to have campaigns like this because alot of times it will screw some of the audience that its trying to win over. I was interested in hearts of iron 4 for a long time. I would buy it as soon as it came out why would I bother to fellow the marketing campaigns to games I already know I am going to buy day 1? IMO limited time content dose nothing but hurt fans both present and future. Should someone who just finds out about a game be screwed from getting all the content when they didn't know about the game? I mean there are tons of games, should you need to know all of the games and all of there marketing campaigns I think not.

God forbid people don't follow marketing campaigns

Well the DLC is for people who did follow the marketing campaign. Unless I'm mistaken, I'm pretty sure I will get it as I faintly remember participating. I have no problem with it being available for everyone else in the future, perhaps sold in the Steam Store along with the plethora of other cosmetic DLCs that are sure to come. I do feel that those who did participate deserve the exclusivity, at least temporarily, simply on the fact that they participated, while those who didn't, well, did not. Perhaps I'm just an elitist asshole though.

On that note, despite the fact that I do own it, I feel that the 'exclusive' Catholic Majors Unit Pack should eventually be available to everyone as well. Perhaps I'm just an egalitarian asshole though.

Edit: According to my extensive research (i.e. looking at the DLC page), Europa Universalis IV had exclusive content that was available for people who participated in a sign-up campaign as well. That content is now available for $3.99. I don't see why the same wouldn't happen for the Hearts of Iron IV sign-up DLC if the demand is high enough.

 

[Svampen]

Shouldn't it be stated somewhere, like the steam page, that there is a campaign exclusive DLC though?

Because having ppl pay 90€ upfront for a heavily marketed premium edition like the field marshal edition without letting them know is borderline false marketing IMO.

 

[klucz13]

This secret DLC will most probably will be just a minor graphics content that won't matter for the game. The fuss around it is blown out of proportion IMO.

 

[Metz]

Is PI going to sell this sign-up freebie? Would be unfortunate if they didn't. No one loses if they give it for free to those who sign up and then sell it to those who didn't. However on the other hand then if its only for those who signed up and the others have no way of getting it then...

 

[klucz13]

Is PI going to sell this sign-up freebie? Would be unfortunate if they didn't. No one loses if they give it for free to those who sign up and then sell it to those who didn't. However on the other hand then if its only for those who signed up and the others have no way of getting it then...

I am sure they will sell it, unless they come up with other give away solution first. Why wouldn't they want to cash their work

 

[Bernard Black]

As someone who joined that marketing campaign as soon as they announced it because i was excited about a new Hearts of Iron i was wondering what would happen with that. On one hand i do not want to deny anyone any kind of content, and if you pay top dollar i do understand that you expect to get every piece of content available at release. However as someone who suffered through that incredible long wait and delay and the abyssmal information desaster that was April 2015 i would like to see something special for the ones like me who still held their interest in the game despite all these cock-ups which only the players of Grand Strategy Games have the patience to endure. Interested to see how they will will mop up this campaign.

 

[nox165]

This secret DLC will most probably will be just a minor graphics content that won't matter for the game. The fuss around it is blown out of proportion IMO.

can I have your minor dlc then

 

[KingLeonidas123]

It is a minor cosmetic DLC we are talking about here.

well since its secret leave it secret for atleast a while 2-3 months exclusive then either just have it free or Just a slight 2 euros at it. prefer free you know for those who signed up and diden't get the other factions

 

[Meroveeus]

can I have your minor dlc then

Only if I get your Stellaris Galaxy Edition (so far I am not allowed to upgrade)...

 

[Peter Wass]

borderline false marketing IMO.

Hysterical tosh. FM isn't marketed as being comprehensive.

 

[nox165]

Only if I get your Stellaris Galaxy Edition (so far I am not allowed to upgrade)...

See this is what I am getting at you should be able to upgrade, you should be able to get all the content for a game. Why lock game content behind a wall? its not like its finite. IMO they should just release all the content after some amount of time and charge for it that way people who followed the campaign get the content first and for free rewarding them and people who really want it can still get it and paradox gets a little money a win- win for every party. Lucky for us paradox tends to actually care about there fans and have actually done this already with some of there out games.