Okay, here's the situation. I'm super-Britannia, and I now control half of the elector votes in the HRE after a long period of attrition, as a result of defections/usurpations/grabbing territories from dukes that go independent. Almost all of the other dukes swearing loyalty to me are of my family, though only a couple are of my culture. They generally like me well (50-100 opinion).
So, my plan was to wait for a "Revolt against the Tyranny of the HRE" - what luck, it's the King of Bavaria, who controls about 1/4 of the whole HRE. Next, I quickly usurp two duchies from the HRE, and give them to myself and my son, so I can nominate either myself or my son for HRE. Then I join the war on the side of the King of Bavaria, so if our joint forces win the HRE will be deposed in favour of his successor. And victory is certain, considering that my army is greater than everyone else on the same page of the ledger put together.
With the revolt going on in the HRE, the total number of dukes loyal to the HRE is now less than the dukes who are loyal to me. If my dukes all voted for me or my son, I would be able to claim the empire by winning the war. However, despite our good relations and practically all of my vassal HRE dukes being of the same family, none of them want to vote for either myself or my son - instead the blighters decide to vote for their own piddly one or two province duchies. On the other hand, the HRE's dukes (all German, but of different families and of generally varying opinions from -25 to 100) are all solidly behind the emperor's imbecile son, and the rebel King of Bavaria has got his two votes to his own, so the AI's votes seem to be working out fine.
The funny thing is, quitting and reloading my game results in the dukes switching their votes to me momentarily, but several months later they switch back to themselves - even those of my culture or those with 100 relations decide to vote for themselves. I observe this bizarre vote-flipping practice every time I load the game while controlling a vassal who is an elector of some monarchy or another.
Whatever the proponents of elective monarchy on this forum may say, this is exactly why I've been distrustful of using elective. What's gone wrong here? Does it have something to do with the war going on? Is it because my capital isn't in the de jure HRE territory? Maybe the game hates me? I wouldn't be surprised - being Crusader King is suffering.
So, my plan was to wait for a "Revolt against the Tyranny of the HRE" - what luck, it's the King of Bavaria, who controls about 1/4 of the whole HRE. Next, I quickly usurp two duchies from the HRE, and give them to myself and my son, so I can nominate either myself or my son for HRE. Then I join the war on the side of the King of Bavaria, so if our joint forces win the HRE will be deposed in favour of his successor. And victory is certain, considering that my army is greater than everyone else on the same page of the ledger put together.
With the revolt going on in the HRE, the total number of dukes loyal to the HRE is now less than the dukes who are loyal to me. If my dukes all voted for me or my son, I would be able to claim the empire by winning the war. However, despite our good relations and practically all of my vassal HRE dukes being of the same family, none of them want to vote for either myself or my son - instead the blighters decide to vote for their own piddly one or two province duchies. On the other hand, the HRE's dukes (all German, but of different families and of generally varying opinions from -25 to 100) are all solidly behind the emperor's imbecile son, and the rebel King of Bavaria has got his two votes to his own, so the AI's votes seem to be working out fine.
The funny thing is, quitting and reloading my game results in the dukes switching their votes to me momentarily, but several months later they switch back to themselves - even those of my culture or those with 100 relations decide to vote for themselves. I observe this bizarre vote-flipping practice every time I load the game while controlling a vassal who is an elector of some monarchy or another.
Whatever the proponents of elective monarchy on this forum may say, this is exactly why I've been distrustful of using elective. What's gone wrong here? Does it have something to do with the war going on? Is it because my capital isn't in the de jure HRE territory? Maybe the game hates me? I wouldn't be surprised - being Crusader King is suffering.
