Is it normal that AI builds crapload of invasion armies?

[MarKr]

Hi,

I played today and in a middle of a war I noticed this:

Every planet I've met sofar had only about 5 defense armies, 120 ships seems like a huge overkill. Is the AI meant to work this way?

 

[Rithral]

It will also delete them, and then rebuild them, then delete them..... until it has run out of credits.

 

[ragehavoc]

No, it is a bug, Glavius stated on his mod that no matter what he changed the numbers to that the AI would still create way too many and that there is a hard code issue that the devs need to fix because, as stated by others, it easily creates a loop that can destroy the AI economy.

 

[Rithral]

AI will also do the same with leaders.

Tag switching to AI empires is so depressing.

 

[The-False-Being26]

The AI is crippled in so many ways its not even funny.

 

[Todie]

It has to do with how AI budgeting works now, and the lack of pacing / compartmentalizing and means thereof currently available in scripting.

Ive spent hours trying to adress this for my AI mod, without forcing it with triggers, to no avail.

Basically, the AI functions through weighted circumstances. At some point, it determines its worth having morr armies. So it starts producing them. Everywhere, quing them up as much as they can afford, rarely even canceling construction when the need gets filled; they can have 1 army less than they want, and still start production of 20 more...

The same problem is prevalent with other construction the AI does. Its less noticable, but still problematic - particularly while the AI remains unable to replace buildings or districts (nor can ot repair them)

With armies, this is partilly a result of minerals being abundant and not directly tied up in other expenses during war time...

 

[Amorenkaire]

Remember that AIs are incredibly, stupidly, inanely dumb.

This is why Norwegians testing a computer operated, IR sensor machine gun turret found the rude surprise that they can created an efficient animal depopulation device for their wildlife when it started open firing on /EVERYTHING/.

Hopefully the devs find a way to add in some sort of limitation to how many things the AI can build/construct per tick, but that would be a system that would likely take a while to fix. And remember that this has always been there, its just that now that minerals are separate from alloys, they'll have a supply of it to burn on AI armies where as before it would wait behind ship and other expenditures.

 

[Rithral]

It has to do with how AI budgeting works now, and the lack of pacing / compartmentalizing and means thereof currently available in scripting.

Ive spent hours trying to adress this for my AI mod, without forcing it with triggers, to no avail.

Basically, the AI functions through weighted circumstances. At some point, it determines its worth having morr armies. So it starts producing them. Everywhere, quing them up as much as they can afford, rarely even canceling construction when the need gets filled; they can have 1 army less than they want, and still start production of 20 more...

The same problem is prevalent with other construction the AI does. Its less noticable, but still problematic - particularly while the AI remains unable to replace buildings or districts (nor can ot repair them)

With armies, this is partilly a result of minerals being abundant and not directly tied up in other expenses during war time...

If it needs one colony ship it will queue up one at every single shipyard it has.

 

[TheBromgrev]

It's also normal for the AI to not actually use those armies...