Is it just me or are murder schemes way more frequent?

[X_FloW]

Like come on, 6 of my children die "suspiciously", I get murdered, I play as my son, 1 sister dies, I get murdered too, next generation, 2 children murdered and I get murdered too

Can I die peacefully or something? 3 generations I get murdered. I don't remember this happening before 1.7

Not to mention, everytime before I die I get the notification of failed murder soooooooooooo many times before I eventually get successfully murdered

EDIT: I died again, i savescummed because this is ridiculous, I got "attempted murder" event, few months later, I died AGAIN
oh and guess what? my heir died too, so I'm playing with a child

What is going on? this is pretty unplayable........

 

[Pixox]

Yes they are but this isn't "unplayable".
.. The problem is only rivals try to make plots Vs players so it's too easy to defend from them.

I Died a couple of times in an entire campaign. You are just lazy because you aren't choosing right bodyguards and spymaster.. so improve your court positions and focus on new rivals. They will try everytime to kill you. Hope to see next patch something similar for people with claims and in line to reach title. for example brothers

 

[RelVleDy]

I haven't gotten deep enough into my current playthru, but having played a ton of CK3, one of my complaints was I almost never got assassinated, so I'm overjoyed that assassinations may be more common.

 

[X_FloW]

Yes they are but this isn't "unplayable".
.. The problem is only rivals try to make plots Vs players so it's too easy to defend from them.

I Died a couple of times in an entire campaign. You are just lazy because you aren't choosing right bodyguards and spymaster.. so improve your court positions and focus on new rivals. They will try everytime to kill you. Hope to see next patch something similar for people with claims and in line to reach title. for example brothers

already got 2 body guards and a personal champion, i already got a shieldmaiden, i already have a spymaster with positive opinion, i already have a food taster, they stop like 5-6 schemes but eventually i get murdered

this was okay the first 2 times but when i got to play as a child ruler of a massive empire with no brothers or sisters cus they all died it becomes ridiculous

 

[Pixox]

already got 2 body guards and a personal champion, i already got a shieldmaiden, i already have a spymaster with positive opinion, i already have a food taster, they stop like 5-6 schemes but eventually i get murdered

this was okay the first 2 times but when i got to play as a child ruler of a massive empire with no brothers or sisters cus they all died it becomes ridiculous

I didnt have this experience in 600 years of gameplay. Maybe you have also a feud with a powerful house. Try also to find secrets, torture find and kill those b*****ds

 

[X_FloW]

Well well, just as we're still speaking. I'm playing as a 4 year old, I wonder who got wronged by an innocent little toddler who could barely walk and talk

 

[Pixox]

find them. I want to know why they want u dead. hire best spymaster u can. Your vassals and courtier has good opinion of u?

 

[154509]

I hope so! Assassination is a major part of the game and it should be a server threat to the player if they don’t balance power well.

 

[X_FloW]

LOL I just can't play wth is this

 

[The Shacks]

Err without being rude, I'd love to know how you're dying this much. I think I speak for a good majority of the player base when I say you only die to assassination in this series, without doing it intentionally, a handful of times. Edit: Hah that looks fun to be honest, the ai is actually trying to present a challenge.

 

[X_FloW]

Err without being rude, I'd love to know how you're dying this much. I think I speak for a good majority of the player base when I say you only die to assassination in this series, without doing it intentionally, a handful of times. Edit: Hah that looks fun to be honest, the ai is actually trying to present a challenge.

Please take a look at the tree and count how many have died "suspiciously", it doesn't target just the player, or the ones in line, I've lost innocent daughters too.

It's fun when someone's at your neck, but when there are 5000 people at your neck constantly and you die only a few years later every single damn time it becomes boring and repetitive

 

[The Shacks]

Ah you started as Haesting, not still in a feud with the Capetians are you? You start rival with Robert and Eudes and a few other families too. That said, I've been playing as the de Normandies, managed to house feud Wessex and Anjou myself but dont think they ever managed to really assassinate anyone. you got a bad one there

 

[RelVleDy]

What is your Spymaster's Intrigue and are they set to discover plots? Also curious if they have low ai_honor with regards to traits, like Deceitful, or not. Having an untrustworthy Spymaster can add a lot to an opp's plot against you if the Spymaster sides with them. I understand your Spymaster might have a positive opinion, but how positive are we talking about here? +5? Regardless, if their ai_honor is low, I would not trust them.

 

[Rubidium]

The DLC did make assassinations more likely in a few ways. It added the House Feuds, which incentivize the AI to plot against their rival house, it added additional events that create rivals (which the AI is more likely to start plots against), and it added a few events that have an option to straight up choose to start a murder plot against another character (which I assume the AI picks at least occasionally).

 

[johnty5]

I don't think I've every been assassinationed in hundreds of hours playing CK3 - it's the sort of curveball that I wish happened a lot more.

Really curious to know how we're playing the game differently that it's happening to you multiple times.

 

[X_FloW]

I don't think I've every been assassinationed in hundreds of hours playing CK3 - it's the sort of curveball that I wish happened a lot more.

Really curious to know how we're playing the game differently that it's happening to you multiple times.

I have 1100 hours on CK3 and I've never dealt with so many assassinations until 1.7 this is definitely a new thing, especially since now its way easier to get rivals

 

[Opanashc]

Cuurent playthrough, I was paying attention to Haestein. He lived till 83, had 6 kids and 9 grandkids. By 910 all but 1 were murdered, including him. Checked with debug - most died from plots by Karolingians and Capetians, one by some other random character.
Thus, pay attention, if somebody in your house head gets rivals with another house. Had a house feud myself, with a neighboring ruler, who was married to a granddaughter of my character. 4 tyranny wars later, he was my friend, and the attempts ended.
There should be memories not only for people, but for houses/dynasties as well - who is in a feud with the house, and why.

 

[iniudan]

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Please take a look at the tree and count how many have died "suspiciously", it doesn't target just the player, or the ones in line, I've lost innocent daughters too.

It's fun when someone's at your neck, but when there are 5000 people at your neck constantly and you die only a few years later every single damn time it becomes boring and repetitive

You are Norse dynasty most red skull are probably battle or duel death, not assassination. Also vengeful and wrathful are virtue for Asatru, so vendetta are pretty common.

 

[X_FloW]

You are Norse dynasty most red skull are probably battle or duel death, not assassination. Also vengeful and wrathful are virtue for Asatru, so vendetta are pretty common.

The blue skulls is what im talking about, apologies if they're indistinguishable from white natural death skulls

 

[iniudan]

The blue skulls is what im talking about, apologies if they're indistinguishable from white natural death skulls

The second part of what I said still hold for blue skull. But with the amount I am seeing, after you mentioned them, you probably have an other house with a vendetta against you, house rivalry don't have to be mutual.