Is it intended for xenophobe empires to automatically enslave pops they gained via migration?

[AlanC9]

The whole migration system that magically grow new Pops, instead of actually moving them is a "design flaw".

Beats moving them myself.

 

[208]

So are migration treaties worth it? Do you "lose" more to other empires than you "gain"? I can't tell whether I should allow them or not for my empire if I want to maximize pop growth.

If you're talking net migration, then it's going to come down to who has the larger immigration pull that is going to come out ahead - although keep in mind that habitability is a big hurdle to overcome, so if your Tundra species has a migration treaty with an Arid species, don't expect any pop movement in either direction.

Perhaps the bigger benefit in that case is being able to build colony ships using that Arid species, even if you have none of them currently in your empire. Although you can't do this from the planet interface (I assume that's a bug), you can build them directly at the shipyard.

 

[happyscrub]

Isn't this a bug? I thought Xenophone couldn't have immigration (from other empires) policies in old versions of the game

 

[wickermoon]

So are migration treaties worth it? Do you "lose" more to other empires than you "gain"? I can't tell whether I should allow them or not for my empire if I want to maximize pop growth.

Dunno...do you like to have pops grow on planets they have 30% habitability on, because the pop growth ai goes "fuck you, that's why"? Then it's totally worth it.

 

[stumason]

Thanks, that's what I wanted to know. :3

No worries As a xenophobic despot, I am well versed in depriving sapient species of their rights

On a side note, there is a cool mod on the workshop that allows you to limit species to certain strata, even if they are full citizens etc, so handy if you want to give those filthy xenos rights, but still make them clean your toilet and not have aspirations to go further.

 

[Kain2K]

Perhaps a better question is this:

Why in the name of the Worm (what was, will be) are POPs migrating to xenophobic empires that have set their policy to enslave those POPs?

Now, migrating to a xenophobic empire might make sense if your species is set to residence or full citizenship, but why move to an empire via normal migration when you will just be enslaved? Hell, the xenophobes could literally sell all the migrating POPs back to the original empire at a tidy profit just for the evil lulz.

Maybe xenophobic empires have just really good PR departments?

 

[MateuszS]

Maybe xenophobic empires have just really good PR departments?

"Enjoy deprieving those filthy xenos their 'rights'! See prosperity coming from slavery!"

 

[Adolf - Finite War]

Maybe xenophobic empires have just really good PR departments?

Hey Susan I know the Blorg Federation of Frienship sounds nice but the Xlorgon Oppressors motto is "Freedom is Slavery" don't you like Freedom? And look at the cute cat video the uploaded on Racebook.

 

[Kain2K]

No worries As a xenophobic despot, I am well versed in depriving sapient species of their rights

On a side note, there is a cool mod on the workshop that allows you to limit species to certain strata, even if they are full citizens etc, so handy if you want to give those filthy xenos rights, but still make them clean your toilet and not have aspirations to go further.

Damn, saw that post just now, do you have a link?

 

[stumason]

Damn, saw that post just now, do you have a link?

Indeed I do:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1621194834

 

[Kain2K]

Indeed I do:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1621194834

Thank you.